From: (Sandra Finley) To: (Tonia Zimmerman) Subject: Ashu phoned my relatives at 5:00am today, and came to the airport
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:33:21 -0800
Hi Tonia,
The barrage of emails from Ashu has continued through the holidays – – I was hoping you might have been spared, but I see where his attacks against you are renewed.
I have refused to respond to him.
But posted all his emails on my blog – I think I told you I was going to do this. I now have more to add, in addition to the following.
He phoned “Finleys” in Saskatoon at 5:00am today and thereby reached my Mother in rural Sask at 5:30 am. She told him my departure time, before figuring out who he was and what was going on.
He came to the airport (6:00 to 6:30 am) and started the accusations, someone in the line stepped in on my behalf, I said that I needed to call the police or security officers; a Westjet employee stepped in, started to call security and Ashu left.
I think that the reason for the renewed attacks against you are because he thinks that I gave you his Father’s name. That appears to be a real button-pusher. The accusations at the airport and the messages today demonstrate a kind of panic that that is what has happened. (my communications with you are none of his business, but never mind that point!)
The other serious threat to him is that you disclosed material he authored, to me. I think it comes down to a situation where his lies can be exposed. He is threatened and doing whatever he can to save himself.
I hope to have the story from Elvin Lau (another person Ashu has attacked) to add to the blogged info, soon.
I think that when everything is up, to enable people to see the full picture, something can be done.
I am going to have further conversations – – will keep you informed.
If we cannot stop this petty tyrant, it bodes poorly for stopping the larger tyrants in our society.
Sandra
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From: Tonia Zimmerman Sent: December-30-13 6:41 AM To: Sandra Finley Subject: RE: Ashu phoned my relatives at 5:00am today, and came to the airport
I am so sorry for all of this, Sandra. The truth is, I got his name from John Gormley. Gormley had suspected the attacks would start up again, and so gave me his last name (and loads of other information about his past, criminal history) as a failsafe: if the attacks started again, I could defend myself with this knowledge, as Ashu does not want it public. I have not made his last name public, but instead implored Ashu’s father to tell Ashu to leave me alone. I know this may seem over the line, but Sandra, I was deeply, deeply frightened, and hoped Dr. Gupta could be a voice of reason–apparently just the opposite has occurred. I am so sorry my actions brought this about. Thank you for weathering this storm. I agree with you–I think the end is coming for his affiliation with the Green Party, and with it, any hopes of “power” for this teapot dictator. I noticed your blog is password protected. Might I get the password, so I can read what he is telling you? I think it is a good idea to collate all the info about his methods of interrogation. I have a few friends he has written threatening e-mails to in the past. Perhaps I’ll get them to send you their accounts, and screen-captures, if possible.
Tonia
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From: (Sandra Finley) To: (Tonia Zimmerman) Subject: RE: Ashu phoned my relatives at 5:00am today, and came to the airport Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 00:10:56 -0800
Oh – so you did what I was THINKING of doing! (Calling Ashu’s Father). Thanks Tonia; I won’t do a repeat!
Re your statement “I know this may seem over the line, . . . I was deeply, deeply frightened,”
As I view things, it is healthy to feel frightened when you are under attack and vulnerable. It is not over the line. we are evolved to survive.
I have a lot more life experience than you (does not mean I’m smarter!) – – but the truth of the matter is that after the encounter at the airport, I was shaken for a while although tried not to show it.
There’s no problem. I think Ashu may now be backed into a corner of his own making.
– First, the URL’s you sent were made to order. The “archives” for November on the one show that the material on you was put up in November. You can figure from that, that Ashu put it up and then took it down. He repeatedly denied that he put up the blog(s). Substantiation of that statement, so far I have:
DECEMBER 16, 2013 11:57:41 PM. . .
If someone posted a negative blog about her, maybe that’s what got her to delete her lies about me. If someone did this, I should thank whoever did it. If someone did this, it was justified and probably necessary to get the lies about me deleted.
(For my own reference, from the same email . . . I have over 500 publications)
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 8:42 PM
How do you know Zimmerman or Sandra didn’t put up this empty blog to try to blame it on me? I think that’s what it is. What’s to stop Zimmerman from putting up a blog and blaming it on Victor or Larry or Mark or Vicki or Kaitlyn? . . .
I had a look at Zimmerman’s Twitter account and I see she has a pattern of making up lies about people and making disparaging remarks about their appearances. Maybe one of them got angry and put up a blog about her. If Zimmerman thinks I’ve done something illegal, she should sue me or go to the cops.. . .
I will soon get the write-up on Ashu completed. fiction vs fact, drawn from the material posted.
Yesterday when I was hurrying to get the rest of the material up, I neglected to remember that password-protected pages show the TITLE of the page. For 4 or 5 hours there were pages with titles such as “Ashu’s two name changes”, “Ashu’s Father”, etc. Before I got them changed to be nondescript, he found them and freaked out. Made phone calls to get people to stop me from posting. I changed the titles – had intended anyway to do that.
I thought there might have been a beneficial side to making the mistake. Maybe it would stop his bullying of people because there are now consequences – – he will be exposed for what he is. All I have to do is to release the password. And he doesn’t know what is on the pages, can only imagine. He sent a solicitous email, saying we could talk things through. I did not reply. (Have tried that twice through intermediaries. It’s a waste of time. In the end he reverts to his bullying self.) He is now back to his usual threats.
I will send you a password, but need more time first. Some straightening to do, and there needs to be one page with links to the others (an index), so you can tell the subject matter of each.
There are risks associated with giving out the password. I lose control of who sees the pages, and what use might be made of them. Until we figure out how best to proceed, I cannot run the risk. A catch-22, because it would be good to collect more stories and screen-captures would be great.
Some of the material I found needs more investigation. I do not want to lose credibility because of weak material. You mention criminal history. I did not find convictions, but instead the appearance of bogus conference(s). And the appearance that at least some claims related to credentials are bogus. That material is posted, but as I say, not strong enough to stand up to scrutiny, at this time.
I also don’t know where to stop. The connections (or “not” connections) . . .
Sandra
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From: Tonia Zimmerman Sent: December-31-13 6:47 AM To: Sandra Finley Subject: RE: Ashu phoned my relatives at 5:00am today, and came to the airport
Hello Sandra,
That is likely the wisest course of action–I can definitely be patient about seeing the other material–I hope that he backs away from the Greens willingly so that we really don’t need to use ANY of it, though it is so good and vital to have it all documented, and by someone with a sterling reputation.
The info I got about Solo’s criminal behaviour was also from John Gormley (of all the people! Certainly no friend to the Greens, but the enemy of my persecutor strangely becomes my friend!)
When the threatening websites first went up, I told Mr. Gormley, who then messaged Solo, and said that if Solo continued to persecute his critics in the same way he persecuted me, he would reveal on air Solo’s real name, and also have on air witnesses of an assault involving Solo/Gupta at River Heights School–in which case, the official records may be sealed–and also military witnesses who could confirm that the “rank” Solo keeps touting doesn’t actually exist in the Canadian Military. I can’t remember if Gormley outright mentioned the illegal/immoral activity having to do with Hamid Arabnia, and the conferences, etc, but I’m sure that’s info Solo wouldn’t want being aired either.
I’ll forward you the messages between them (which Gormley forwarded to me), if you think it will help–it makes for some fascinating reading, as Solo sent about a dozen messages to Gormley overnight, first denying he was Gupta, then pleading with him not to reveal it, then threatening him with legal action, then vilifying my character, then asking for sympathy because the situation is stressing him out. That was the most galling part–as though he wasn’t outright terrorizing my life, just to force my silence.
Solo can deny that the frightening messages were from him, but as you have seen, they have the exact same cadence and even phrasing as messages he admits to sending, and the dates and times follow closely on the heels of his own messages–they’re clearly him. However, you’re probably right to hold off on the less substantiated evidence. I have no doubt it’s true, but you’re right that the case against him is stronger, if the evidence presented is only confirmed, documented things rather than rumour.
What I can’t believe that even Solo can’t see is how bad all this makes him look. Even if I’m just a “busybody” (which I’m NOT) none of his responses have been proportionate, or appropriate for a leader of an organization which stands for the things the Greens do. He seems to believe that he is justified in taking any actions he wishes against political or personal enemies. That’s certainly not the way Elizabeth May runs her campaigns, and simply doesn’t match my idea of what the Green Party should be about.
I am so sorry to hear about his bullying you at an airport. I am fortunate to say that I have yet to encounter Solo in real life–though I’m sure he has tried to track me down as well–thank God for unlisted phone numbers!–but I am glad others intervened, and that you held your ground. I do find it telling that so often the targets of his animus tend to be women. Not just women in general, but outspoken, politically active women. It makes me shudder a bit to think how dark that man’s life must be that this is what fills it. And sadly, his darkness has spread to my life, as I spend a lot of my waking hours thinking about the situation, and wondering what horrible thing might happen next.
Thank you again for collating all this data, and for hearing me out. It has been a frightening saga, but far less so knowing the ally I have in you.
All the best,
Tonia
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From: Sandra Finley Sent: December 31, 2013 11:44 AM To: ‘Tonia Zimmerman’ Subject: RE: Ashu
Good day Tonia,
The happy thing going into the New Year: I think the way has opened for us to deal effectively with this darkness.
Thank-you for your input. It helped clarify the next step.
First, an update. I don’t know whether Ashu sent to you late yesterday what I received from him: a copy of what he says he sent to Saskatoon City Police, a complaint against me.
I hope he actually did do that. If he did, we need the Police to then ACT on the complaint – – to contact me. Then I can give them what they need – – some basis for dealing with Ashu.
I believe the need is related to mental health, not the legal system, but the entry point, as I understand it, is through the Police. Which is probably as it should be: there is no guarantee that Ashu will restore himself to mental health. If that doesn’t happen, then people in the community need some form of protection against him, or the wherewithal to deal with him.
The Green who is the liaison with Elvin Lau, Lois, put it this way: (as a society and as the Green Party) we need to learn to deal with people who have mental health problems. This is an opportunity to do that! (I might wish that we could learn our lessons in some way that is less demanding in time and patience!)
Things get dicey. The information about Gormley’s involvement from you, would ideally be added to the password-protected documentation. But he might not want that done.
John does not share my views on many topics – you are right!!, but I have a bit of a connection with him through guests I have helped make arrangements for getting on his show. I think it worked two ways: it enabled him to be seen to be more fair in the allocation of air time. And it enabled us to be preaching to more people than just “the choir”.
Anyhow – I left a message for John about Ashu. I will not bring your name into a conversation, if he calls back. In the voice message, I referred to the fact that Ashu has been on his programme, that Ashu claims to have gone to the Police, the opportunity this presents for me to deal with Ashu.
Hopefully, by bringing the players in the drama together, we can cobble together an outcome that will be beneficial to all, including the community.
QUESTION OF THE PASSWORD:
In speaking with Lois about Elvin’s situation, in the end, the following conclusion about the password seemed to be best.
(I do not like a situation where information is in the control of one person, and others do not have access to it. However.)
Our thinking was that (in case the Police do proceed with an investigation of Ashu’s complaint) it would be helpful if I could say that I have not given the password to any other person. (Ashu’s claim is that I am endangering his Family, and placing him under a large amount of stress because of what I could do with the information. And the people to whom I will give the password are a threat to his safety and that of his family.)
Your thoughts?
And hey, It’s New Year’s Eve! We have much that is good to celebrate.
May 2014 be a Year of Enlightenment!
Best wishes,
Sandra
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