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2012-12-22 FDA Pushes to Release Genetically Modified Salmon into Environment

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(from Nation of Change)

by Anthony Gucciardi

The very genetic coding of the planet is no longer held sacred, according to the United States Food and Drug Administration. The agency is now pushing for the release of genetically modified salmon called ‘frankenfish’ to be unleashed across the globe, threatening the genetic integrity of the entire animal kingdom.

Mutated by scientists to grow twice as fast as a normal salmon through the manipulation of the animal’s genetic code, the genetically modified salmon created by the company AquAdvantage was actually blocked for approval by Congress back in 2011 due to serious health concerns. In the report regarding the ban on the approval of the genetically modified salmon by Huffington Post, it is quite clearly spelled out how the FDA-backed mega company AquaAdvantage only cares about losing investors and profits — not the serious public health concerns.

Health Not a Priority: Genetically Modified Salmon Maker ‘Frustrated‘ Salmon Not Yet Unleashed Due to ‘Loss of Investors’

As the report details, AquaAdvantage head Ron Stotish had this to say about being blocked due to serious health concerns:

“He said, he is frustrated by the delay and has lost investors in his business…”

Poor Ron Stotish! This chief executive has lost investors! Never mind the fact that the GM salmon could proverbially ‘muddy’ the genetic ‘waters’ of nature, or cause unknown health issues in humans. No, that isn’t important. What’s important to Mr. Stotish is the loss of profits. Since 1991, AquaAdvantage pumped in over $67 million to develop this fish, and they are not going to stop fighting until it’s on your dinner plate.

Thankfully, Stotish has the FDA to proclaim how great genetically modified food is as usual. Ignoring the 37 diseases that Roundup is associated with and discounting all of the information linking GMOs to health concerns is ‘scientific’, after all. Even mild critics of the ‘frankenfish’ salmon argue that it could at the very least cause allergies in humans, let alone be unleashed into the wild and disrupt the genetic coding of fish for all future generations.

The genetically modified salmon contains both a gene from the Pacific Chinook salmon that causes the fish to produce growth hormone 24/7, as well as a gene derived from an eel-like fish that triggers the hormone production. This causes the fish to reach around 6.6 pounds instead of the average 2.8 pounds. It also reaches 24 inches instead of 13.

FDA Says GMOs Safe, Natural Foods Dangerous

The fact of the matter is that numerous heads of the FDA have a deep (or even current) history with biotech giants like Monsanto. People like Michael R. Taylor, the current Deputy Commissioner for Foods at the FDA, was actually a Vice President at Monsanto. This is the same man that led an assault and subsequent shutdown of the largest organic peanut butter factory. Meanwhile, tumor-linked GMOs roam free.

And so will this genetically modified salmon unless activism prevails against the FDA and AquaAdvantage.

But in the event that these GM salmon are unleashed, how will you know if you’re eating GM salmon? After all, US citizens eat more than 650 million pounds of salmon each year. As you may have guessed, the FDA says that the genetically modified salmon does not need to labeled as it’s the ‘same’ as regular salmon.

The fact of the matter is that this criminal organization must be stopped before the genetic coding of plants and animals worldwide is irreversibly contaminated. As biotech corporations with billions in funding begin to alter animals after already manipulating 80 plus percent of just about every staple crop, the fight for genetic preservation will continue.

2012-12-21 Engineered Fish Moves a Step Closer to Approval, New York Times

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Government regulators moved a big step closer on Friday to allowing the first genetically engineered animal — a fast-growing salmon — to enter the nation’s food supply.

The Food and Drug Administration said it had concluded that the salmon would have “no significant impact” on the environment. The agency also said the salmon was “as safe as food from conventional Atlantic salmon.” While the agency’s draft environmental assessment will be open to public comment for 60 days, it seems likely that the salmon will be approved, though that could still be months away.

The environmental assessment is dated May 4. It is unclear why it took until now for it to be released, but supporters of the salmon say they believe it is because the Obama administration was afraid of an unfavorable consumer reaction before the election in November.

Environmental and consumer groups quickly criticized the federal agency’s conclusions.

“The G.E. salmon has no socially redeeming value,” Andrew Kimbrell, executive director of the Center for Food Safety, a Washington advocacy group opposed to farm biotechnology, said in a statement. “It’s bad for the consumer, bad for the salmon industry and bad for the environment. F.D.A.’s decision is premature and misguided.”

But the decision was long in coming. AquaBounty Technologies, the company that developed the salmon, has been trying to win approval for more than a decade.

“We’re encouraged by this,” Ronald Stotish, the chief executive of AquaBounty, said on Friday. However, he added, “We’re not so foolish as to be wildly enthusiastic” that Friday’s action will definitely lead to approval. Among other things, some members of Congress have tried to block the agency from approving the fish.

The AquAdvantage salmon, as it is called, is an Atlantic salmon that contains a growth hormone gene from the Chinook salmon and a genetic switch from the ocean pout, an eel-like creature. The switch keeps the gene on so that the salmon produces growth hormone year round, rather than only during warm weather. The fish reach market weight in about 18 months instead of three years.

The F.D.A. tentatively concluded in September 2010 that the salmon would be safe to eat and for the environment. A committee of outside advisers, while finding some shortcomings in the analysis, did not contradict those conclusions in general.

The agency then embarked on a more detailed environmental analysis that has now come to the same conclusions.

The main concern addressed was whether the genetically engineered salmon could escape and establish themselves in the wild, with detrimental environmental consequences. The larger salmon, for instance, could conceivably outcompete wild Atlantic salmon for food or mates.

The agency said the chance this would happen was “extremely remote.” It said the salmon would be raised in inland tanks with multiple barriers to escape. Even if some fish did escape, the nearby bodies of water would be too hot or salty for their survival. And reproduction would be unlikely because the fish would be sterilized, though the sterilization technique is not foolproof.

The agency also said that approval of the salmon would have no effect on endangered species, including wild Atlantic salmon. The National Marine Fisheries Service and the Fish and Wildlife Service did not disagree.

AquaBounty produces its eggs at a facility in Prince Edward Island, Canada. The eggs are shipped to the highlands of Panama, where the fish are grown to market weight.

The federal agency said that other facilities for growing the salmon would require separate approvals. It also noted that it did not assess how the salmon would affect the environment in Panama and Canada, only in the United States.

Opponents said that the agency should do a more complete environmental impact statement. They also said that not enough samples were studied to conclude that the fish would be safe to eat.

Scientists and companies working on animal biotechnology had complained that the failure to approve the salmon was discouraging investment in the industry.

An article in Slate earlier this week said the White House had been delaying release of the environmental assessment for political reasons, violating the Obama administration’s pledge to make decisions based on science. The environmental assessment was released soon afterward.

An agency spokesman declined to comment on the delay. He said it was not possible to predict when a final decision on the salmon would be made.

The F.D.A. is likely to take weeks or months to analyze the comments it receives. Even if it then affirms the conclusions released Friday, that would be a decision that a bigger environmental impact statement is not needed. The agency would still have to take a separate step to approve the salmon for introduction into the food supply, although it is thought there are no other important issues outstanding.

Mr. Stotish of AquaBounty said that if the approval came early next year, some salmon could reach American dinner plates late next year. But quantities would be limited by the small capacity in Panama. AquaBounty hopes to sell eggs to other fish farms that would grow larger quantities of salmon, but that is likely to take a few more years.

AquaBounty has argued that the faster growth of its fish makes it feasible to rear them in inland tanks rather than ocean pens, reducing the environmental impact. “That allows us not to disturb the oceans whatsoever,” said Elliot Entis, the founder of AquaBounty.

Mr. Entis, who no longer works for the company, has formed a new company to rear the salmon in the United States.

AquaBounty, which is based in Maynard, Mass., nearly ran out of money waiting for the salmon to be approved.

Kakha Bendukidze, an investor from the nation of Georgia who owned nearly half the company’s stock, sold his holdings in October to Intrexon, an American company. Intrexon, which is offering to buy the rest of AquaBounty, is providing it with a $500,000 loan.

Intrexon is working on synthetic biology, which is sort of a souped-up form of genetic engineering. It is not clear yet how it plans to apply that technology to AquaBounty’s fish.

Documentation Ethics Comm

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TITLE:   Ethics Committee.  Ashu Solo discontinued his membership.  Complaint can’t proceed through this route.

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On Dec 8, 2013, at 12:34 PM, “Sandra Finley” wrote:

TO:

– Patricia Farnese in her role of GPC Rep for Sask

– Victor Lau, in his role of leader, GPS

 

A young woman who I do not know contacted me via facebook. She is a dedicated Green, and concerned about Ashu’s role in the Green Parties. I presume she approached me because my association with the Greens in Sask. is known.

More seriously: she submitted email exchanges. My quick interpretation is a case of cyber bullying to the point where the woman is fearful of what Ashu can do to her by what he is posting, including and up to material on a blog – – she says the material Ashu is posting about her is unfounded.

My interpretation of her handling of the situation is that she is intimidated to the point of inaction because she is powerless in the face of the attacks – – afraid that if she takes more steps, Ashu will make it worse for her. (You would have to be savvy with internet technology, and have a whole lot of time to spare, to be able to launch a defence against the attacks.)

In making an initial determination of whether her fears are justified, I did a search on her name: the web presence that has been created is such that everything that comes up is the (false and defaming) statements by Ashu, about her.

IT suggests to me that this is a serious allegation, demanding of our attention and speedy resolution.

There are some steps that should be taken ASAP. I think that control of the Green Party facebook pages should be put into secure hands pending the outcome of investigations.

I invite your input.

Sandra

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From: Patricia Farnese
Sent: December-08-13 2:06 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: Re: Complaint received, serious, re Ashu Solo

 

If its tonnia Zimmerman, we’ve been in contact. I will be presenting what she sent me to the chair of ethics this week. IPf

Sent from my iPhone

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From: Sandra Finley
Sent: December-09-13 10:24 PM
To: Marlene Wells; PatriciaGRN Farnese
Subject: RE: Message sent to Complainant re Ashu Solo

 

Hi Marlene and Patricia,

 

My reply to Tonia may have been unnecessary, in light of fact that Patricia is taking the complaint to Ethics Committee.

Prior to knowing that, I messaged Tonia – – she should be a decision-maker in how (whether) things proceed.

/Sandra

APPENDED

Hi Tonia,

There is no problem maintaining a written record. It is a good way to proceed.

I approach this as a complaint; the Green Party has procedures to follow, which should ensure a fair and just outcome. It is also the best insurance against the thing you have identified: “conversations misrepresented”.

I think my role is to act as a facilitator in this case, to forward the complaint to the right people.

It will not be beneficial to you if I intervene in any other way; I believe that Ashu Solo would claim it as evidence that I have a vendetta against him, which is not true.

If you wish to proceed with a complaint, which I would encourage you to do, I will see that it is put into confidential and competent hands in the Green Party of Canada.

Please advise me whether you wish to proceed. If you do, the documentation should be forwarded as soon as possible, in time for the meeting agenda.

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From: Larry Waldinger
Sent: December-09-13 11:31 AM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: Re: Complaint received, serious, re Ashu Solo

Sandra:

I bet you are talking about Tonia Zimmerman. I would tend to believe what Ashu says about her rather than what she has to say about Ashu. Tonia made similar complaints to Patricia Farnese.

I have read literally hundreds of blistering comments online about Ashu coming from so called Christians, so I am not surprised to hear about lies spread about him. I have seen racist comments online from my fellow bus drivers in response to Ashu’s complaint about the Merry Christmas signs on buses. I received my own threat too simply for openly agreeing with Ashu at work. Even though the coverage and backlash I have received is a tiny fraction of what Ashu is receiving I felt very uncomfortable about it.

Here is something Ashu wrote about Tonia recently in an email to Patricia Farnese:

“Tonia Zimmerman is harassing the hell out of me. She was following me
around in different Facebook groups and saying how ugly I am and posting
lies in different news articles about me saying I threatened her and
sent sexual messages to her. The StarPhoenix deleted most of her lies.
Why would I send sexual messages to someone I hate? I’m not a pervert.
If I threatened her, she should go to the cops.”

If it is not Tonia you are talking about, Sandra I would still be skeptical. Many people have spread lies about Ashu, and he has been physically assaulted too. If Ashu is encouraging a critic to report him to the police it would appear that he has nothing to hide.

I did not tell Ashu about this email or your concern over this complaint you received. Perhaps you should forward the complaints you are receiving to the authorities. Supposedly cyber-bullying is taken more seriously now by law enforcement. (It appears that cyber-bullying legislation has been used to strengthen police powers and only give the appearance that the Conservative government cares about the issue.) I don’t think Ashu has any fear of being investigated. I believe he is the victim of bullying.

I just had a look at Tonia’s Facebook page, and here is something she wrote about Ashu on March 15: “Bald? Check. Fat? Check. Virgin? Probably.” That doesn’t sound like the words of an innocent victim.

Regards,

Larry

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From: Sandra Finley
Sent: December-09-13 1:13 PM
To: ‘Larry Waldinger’
Subject: RE: Complaint received, serious, re Ashu Solo

 

Thanks Larry.

I think your advice is sound.

I would like to just turn it over to the authorities for them to investigate.

But I think we need to do an initial screening, to determine whether it should be turned over.

Maybe establish a committee of 3 people to look into it, and then make a recommendation?

Anyhow – thanks for your input.

Will look at other input, too and then get back to people.

Sandra

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From: Mark Bigland-Pritchard / Low Energy Design Ltd

Sent: December-10-13 6:39 AM

To: Victor Lau; Sandra Finley

Cc: PatriciaGRN Farnese; Marlene Wells; LarryGRN Waldinger; VickiGRN Strelioff

Subject: Re: Complaint received, serious, re Ashu Solo

 

I agree that both Tonia Zimmermann’s allegations against Ashu and Ashu’s counter-allegations need to be thoroughly investigated.

I expect that I will have no further substantive comment until such investigations are complete.

mark

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From: Vicki Strelioff

Sent: December-10-13 6:01 AM

To: Marlene Wells; Farnese, Patricia; Sandra Finley

Subject: Zimmerman vs Solo Complaint

 

I received a phonecall last night from Ashu regarding his complaint that he is being slandered.

As I have not actually read any of the alleged slanderous emails and posted comments on Facebook and Twitter written by Tonia Zimmerman or Ashu, I don’t have anything on which to judge. As I have a lack of evidence, it is to me just a “He said, she said” argument (unless I see something to the contrary). Therefore, I told Ashu that I don’t know very much about it and I really don’t have any interest in this business as I have my mom and family as my top priority at this time.

I understand that the complaint has been sent to the GPC ethics committee and hopefully we will get some official direction on the matter.

As I have not had time on my computer at home to have Facebook access (as well as not being Facebook savvy), I haven’t looked into taking away Ashu’s access to administering the Facebook page until this matter is resolved (whether temporarily or permanently). I may have some time on Thursday evening or Friday to look into how to do this.

In the meantime, I believe we need to tread very carefully so that both complaints are treated fairly and equally. Is there enough evidence to have either complaint considered “cyberbullying” to hand over to the RCMP to perhaps do a electronic forensic audit to find the evidence that I have been told has been taken down from social media as well as tracing any relevant emails?

For those dealing with this, I appreciate your time in sifting through it and please do keep me in the loop as you can as I do read my emails.

Vicki

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From: Sandra Finley

Sent: December-10-13 10:30 AM

To: ‘Vicki Strelioff’

Subject: RE: Zimmerman vs Solo Complaint

Noted. Thanks Vicki

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From: Sandra Finley
Sent: December-10-13 11:49 AM
To: PatriciaGRN Farnese; Marlene Wells
Subject: FW RE Ashu Solo: the complainant wishes to proceed

 

For your documentation.

 

From: Facebook
Sent: December-10-13 10:20 AM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: New messages from Tonia Zimmerman

Tonia Zimmerman

9:27am Dec 10

Hello Sandra,

This seems like the wisest course of action. I absolutely want to proceed. Thank you.

Tonia

 

Tonia Zimmerman

9:49am Dec 10

So should I forward the documentation to you? Or is there a form to fill out?

 

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On 2013:12:10 Victor Lau wrote:

Hello Sandra,

These allegations are of quite a serious nature and should be thoroughly investigated.

Please forward to me the contact info of this woman so that I can get in touch with her.

Thank you so much for alerting me to this situation.

 

Sincerely, vic lau.

PS- You mention that the woman who is being threatened is a dedicated Green, is she a federal Green Party member? GPS Member? Or both?

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On 2013-12-10, at 2:09 PM, “Sandra Finley” wrote:

Hi Victor,

In reply to your questions:

1. The woman prefers that the matter be handled in writing, no phone calls. For two reasons:

– It provides an accurate record of what has been communicated (we all tend to have faulty memories!).

– She feels that her verbal communications at the beginning have been misrepresented.

 

2. I presumed that the woman is a “Green”, supportive federally and provincially. Some of the exchange took place on the GPS (Green Party of Sask) F/B group. I did not ask her the question directly (it is not relevant to the allegation).

 

3. RE your thought should be thoroughly investigated: As it turns out, the ethics committee of the GPC meets this weekend. It is their responsibility to deal with matters such as this one. The committee is arms’ length from the people involved (they don’t know the complainant or the accused).

 

I communicated to the complainant:

the Green Party has procedures to follow, which should ensure a fair and just outcome. It is also the best insurance against the thing you have identified: “conversations misrepresented”.

I think my role is to act as a facilitator in this case, to forward the complaint to the right people.

Please advise me whether you wish to proceed. If you do, the documentation should be forwarded as soon as possible, in time for the (INSERT: ethics) meeting agenda.

UPDATE: The complainant responded this morning (Dec 10): This seems like the wisest course of action. I absolutely want to proceed. Thank you.

 

I have just now forwarded that input (a woman wishes to file a complaint) to the GPC. The committee will not have had time to advise Ashu about the complaint and the process for resolution. The process will afford Ashu ample opportunity to present his view of events, if the committee decision is that sufficient evidence exists to call for further investigation (i.e. the complaint is not frivolous).

In the interests of

– “due process” (a process to achieve fair and just outcome), and

– especially in a situation where the accused has a presence (relationships) locally in the Green Parties,

the matter should proceed more or less as outlined. And the appropriate people will be informed, as the process moves forward.

As always, your (everyone’s) further thoughts are welcome.

Note: I dropped Mark from the “reply to all”, in accordance with his input.

 

Best to all,

Sandra

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From: Patricia Farnese

Sent: December-10-13 12:15 PM

To: Sandra Finley

Cc: Victor Lau; Marlene Wells; LarryGRN Waldinger; VickiGRN Strelioff

Subject: Re: Response to Victor re Complaint received, serious, re Ashu Solo

 

Sorry Sandra I omitted you on an earlier email. She is not a GPC member, so our ethics procedures don’t really apply. The ethics committee is not meeting this weekend. Federal Council is meeting. I am going to speak with the chair of the ethics committee to determine how best to proceed and will solicit the advice of the executive director and other federal council members. Pf

Sent from my iPhone

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On 2013-12-11, at 12:37 AM, “Sandra Finley” wrote:

Patricia – –

Is the question whether Ashu is a GPC member?

Sandra

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From: Patricia Farnese

Sent: December-11-13 5:01 AM

To: Sandra Finley

Subject: Re: Response to Victor re Complaint received, serious, re Ashu Solo

No. Tonia isn’t

Sent from my iPhone

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On 2013-12-11, at 11:46 AM, “Sandra Finley” wrote:

What I am questioning:

– Does Tonia’s status in the party (member or non-member) matter?

– The allegations are against Ashu, in his capacity of being a member of the GPC/GPS. Whether disciplinary action is taken would depend on HIS status, not hers??

Sandra

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From: Patricia Farnese

Sent: December-11-13 11:04 AM

To: Sandra Finley

Subject: Re: I am not questioning Tonia’s status, rather . . .

 

No our ethics procedure covers issues between members and employees. We don’t have a policy that covers a complaint against a member. We do for candidates. That’s why I’m trying to figure out how to proceed.

Sent from my iPhone

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From: Sandra Finley
Sent: December-11-13 2:31 PM
To: ‘Patricia Farnese’
Cc: Marlene Wells; VickiGRN Strelioff
Subject: RE: PROCEDURE for dealing with the complaint against Ashu Solo

 

Patricia – – would it be helpful to forward the following, in accordance with your suggestion: ?

I am going to speak with the chair of the ethics committee to determine how best to proceed and will solicit the advice of the executive director and other federal council members. Pf

 

Ashu Solo is acting as though he is a legitimate representative of the Green Party, federally and provincially.  The allegations against him are serious.  The matter needs to be dealt with expeditiously.

REQUEST:

  1. A determination whether the complaint is actionable by the ethics committee
  2. If actionable,  at the earliest convenience, notice be sent to Ashu Solo that there is a complaint against him, along with a description of the process that will be followed for resolution.
  3. The same communication be sent to the complainant.
  4. At the earliest possible convenience, the complainant be told a contact person / email address she should communicate through (access to the information she has posted)  (which I have not seen, and do not want to see – – this matter needs to be heard by people who are arms’ length.)

NOTE:  There was a mix-up via which I incorrectly advised the complainant that the ethics committee will meet this weekend.

(See the appended)  I advised her:

the Green Party has procedures to follow, which should ensure a fair and just outcome. 

Sorry to table these matters that are only a drain on our energy and time.

Thank-you for your consideration.

Sandra Finley

 

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From: Patricia Farnese

Sent: December-11-13 4:46 PM

To: Sandra Finley

Subject: Re: I am not questioning Tonia’s status, rather . . .

Sorry. Are you dealing with this or am I? I don’t care either way, but think we shouldn’t be duplicating out efforts.

Sent from my iPhone

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On 2013-12-11, at 7:20 PM, “Sandra Finley” wrote:

I am happy to have you dealing with it, Patricia.

When I responded to this person (INSERT: Tonia Zimmerman), I did not know that you had been involved.

Are you connected with her on facebook? If not, how about if I draw my involvement to a close, through a message that goes to you both via F/b?

Sandra

 

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From: Patricia Farnese

Sent: December-12-13 3:15 AM

To: Sandra Finley

Subject: Re: I am not questioning Tonia’s status, rather . . .

Sounds good.

Sent from my iPhone

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From: Sandra Finley

Sent: December-12-13 12:42 PM

To: ‘Patricia Farnese’

Subject: RE: FYI Ashu

 

This is just FYI, Patricia.

My reading of Ashu’s actions yesterday and today: he is scared of what will come out of a fair hearing process.

I am not responding to anything I receive from him.

Larry phoned yesterday to ask if he could give my phone number to Ashu (Ashu asked him for it). I told Larry “no”.

Today Ashu sent the predictable email of threats to me.

Sandra

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On 2013-12-17, at 9:31 PM,

Thanks Patricia,

I will follow through and contact ethics. Thanks for the direction.

I see where Ashu is now claiming that he is no longer a member of the �gpc.

Sandra

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:21:43 -0600

From: Patricia Farnese

Reply-To: Patricia Farnese

Subject: Re: Ashu

To: Sandra Finley

I have confirmed he is no longer a member of the GPC. I’d just ignore him. There is not much we can do at this point. Pf

Sent from my iPhone

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Tactic: social media users refer to it as:  FLAMING

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TITLE:   Here’s what to expect if Ashu Solo attacks you

Based on my personal experience.

But exactly the same tactics, and in many cases the same wording, are used by Ashu Solo in his assaults on other people.   See, for example,     John Gormley     email exchange with Ashu Solo.

So, what to expect ?!  ….

CREATES THE ILLUSION THAT THERE’S A BATTLE BETWEEN YOU AND HIM

HOW? . . .

through a relentless stream of communications, mostly all from him.

You don’t have to participate.  But others who receive the messages, probably glance at them, are left with the impression that there is a battle of personalities going on.

Social media users refer to it as:  FLAMING

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)

Flaming, also known as bashing, is hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity.

Flaming usually occurs in the social context of an Internet forum, … , by e-mail, ….

Deliberate flaming, as opposed to flaming as a result of emotional discussions, is carried out by individuals known as flamers, who are specifically motivated to incite flaming. These users specialize in flaming and target specific aspects of a controversial conversation.   . . . 

EXAMPLES FROM MY EXPERIENCE

    • The relentless stream   (there’s something around a hundred emails from Ashu)
    • Creation of the illusion
      • AND WHAT REALLY SHOWS YOU’RE A SLIMEBAG IS . . .
      • Subject: Get a Life      All you try to do is cause trouble.  . . .
      • Sandra Finley, stop harassing me and spreading lies about me. I   won’t tolerate your bullying.

As mentioned, the reality is that I did not send any communications to Ashu Solo.

Ask him to produce EVEN ONE example of the harassment, lies and bullying that he claims.

He provides a fairly accurate description of himself, through his accusations of what OTHER people are doing.

 

CREATES THE ILLUSION THAT HE KNOWS THE LAW AND HOW TO USE IT.  INTIMIDATION TACTIC.

John Gormley , a lawyer by training,  said it succintly:

I am tiring of your incessant bullying of anyone with whom you disagree, from your misunderstanding of civil litigation to even trying to intimidate me with your fictional story about Zellers.

Gormley had information from Zimmerman and two other women.  He also had this from the emails sent to him by Ashu Solo:

Once I win my civil claim against the guy in the U.S. spreading lies about our conference, we will send out a media advisory on that and I want you to retweet that and Rawlco to report it. Then I probably won’t sue you and Rawlco Radio.

EXAMPLES FROM MY EXPERIENCE

Again, there are many.

Scroll down through   December 18   for examples related to the “demand letter” he likes to use.

There’s this from December 12:

I am preparing civil claims for $1 million against Zimmerman and you.  Don’t think that you can get away with making libelous statements against me because I’m not a lawyer.  I’m smarter than any lawyer.  When I get a judgment against you in court, the deputy sheriff will seize any assets and property that you own.  Cease and desist lying about me or it will increase the amount of judgment that I get against you.

There’s his Complaint to the Saskatoon Police against myself and also against Daeran Gall, also threatened against others.

And so on.  Many to choose from.

BOLD-FACED LIES, I DON’T KNOW WHERE HE GETS THEM FROM!

Lies, manufactured on demand:

Ashu has to discredit you.

1.    This not-serious example is a funny curiosity to me:

I am not “twice-divorced”, as Ashu has circulated.  It is a statement that he thinks degrades me.  Doesn’t have to be true.  Just has to be degrading.  (But never mind if I DID happen to be twice-divorced.)

His attacks on women lead me to wonder    . . .  There is a very good TED Talk (January 2014)  about the changed-from-the-tenth-century Muslim relationship to sexuality.   Even if Ashu is not of Muslim background, you may find it interesting and worthwhile:

Shereen El Feki: A little-told tale of sex and sensuality. TED Talk

2.   I am coming to a serious example of manufactured lies, but here’s another small one first.

Ashu calims that I refused to let a fellow (Tory McGregor) run as a candidate simply because Tory was a member of the military. And ipso facto, my dislike of the military is the reason I am opposed to Ashu.

Fact: in order for any member of the military to run for public office, they have to obtain a letter from their Commanding Officer that grants them permission to run.

As a first step, I explained the requirement to Tory McGregor, in plenty of time for him to obtain the letter.  He never did get the letter, and so no, he was not able to seek the candidacy.  That was Tory’s doing, not mine.

Ashu has a consistent pattern.

3.      Here is one example of a lie, manufactured by Ashu to create an alibi.  This one is serious.

The setting:  But WHY did Ashu come after me as he did, at the Airport at 6:00 o’clock in the morning, December 28th?  There’s a reason.

Which leads to    another lie   (January 11th).

This lie, that he came to the Airport to give me a “demand letter”:

He DID email me his “demand letter”, but that was on December 18,  as mentioned above.

4.      When Ashu became afraid that the John Gormley information might be in my hands,  another line of attack was along the line of how “creepy” it was for me to be collecting information . . .

Earlier it had been how deranged I was to have been collecting information on him, his conferences, military connections, and business associations back in August.

Both generated many assault emails.

FACT:  Ashu Solo wanted to run for public office (Green Party candidate).   It is routine for political parties to conduct background checks on potential candidates.   See the private conversation  Ashu Solo: The vetting .

 

You now have a small sampling of what to expect if Ashu Solo comes after you.

In the case of Tonia Zimmerman,  the attacks have been on-going for more than a year.

AND his tactics included the use of two blogs dedicated to creating a false reputation – – see   (LINK NEEDED)

WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE AN ATTACK BY ASHU SOLO?

(put this on a separate page, linked.  SAme one as at bottom of ANCHOR.)

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January 9, 2014 6:22 AM    Unfortunately I think we need

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:22 AM
To: Vicki Strelioff; Larry Waldinger; Patricia Farnese
Subject: Verbal Abuse Policy for EDA Meetings

 

Unfortunately I think we need a verbal abuse policy for EDA meetings.  I think our last EDA meeting devolved into a nasty brawl.     This is my last email about this matter unless there are further attacks against me.

 

Before she left the meeting, Lois Mitchell told me that I’m “unbalanced” and “need to get help” after I asked her why she thought and said the article about Zimmerman was libelous.  Before the meeting, Lois said that I write like a child and was giving me dirty looks whenever she saw me, probably because she said the first time I met her that there should be Christian prayer recitations at city events.  At the climate change or anti-Monsanto event we had, I said “hi” to her in a friendly way and she didn’t respond, but instead just gave me a dirty look back.  If all of her statements about me were the case, I wouldn’t have over 500 refereed research and political commentary publications.

 

I didn’t like Lois trying to get into my personal business about the nature of my past civil claims.  If I were discriminated against by someone and sued someone for it, why do I have to tell her the details?  Her demands to know the details in front of everyone are like if I demanded to know the details of her personal relationships in front of everyone, but I’m not interested in hearing about people’s personal business.  I don’t follow celebrity gossip.  The details of my past civil claims that aren’t covered by the media and the details of Lois’s personal relationships have no bearing on anyone.

 

I didn’t like Lois calling the article about Zimmerman “libelous.”  By calling the article libelous, she was saying that Zimmerman is in the right and I’m in the wrong.  How does she know if it’s libelous without knowing any details?  Does she even know what libelous means?  I never contacted Crocels News about Zimmerman.  Zimmerman contacted Crocels News to spread lies about me because they’ve interviewed me many times in the past about international human rights issues.  Crocels News, which focuses on the intersection of politics and IT, didn’t like Zimmerman’s actions , so they decided to write about her harassment, cyberbullying, and cyberstalking of me and future developments.

 

I didn’t like Lois demanding to know the lies about me and then saying after the meeting that I should have left the lies up for her to see.  Why should I majorly defame myself by telling everyone the lies about me and leaving them for everyone to see?  It ain’t gonna happen.  I showed Larry and Victor some of the lies and that’s enough.

 

Also, I’ve never heard anything so rude as Lynn Oliphant telling me to “shut my mouth and leave.”  He then denied saying this, but you all heard it.  This isn’t the way a professional should talk.  How would any of you like if someone said that to you?  It made me feel like an unwelcome rodent.  A person with manners would have said that the meeting is going in camera so unfortunately anyone who isn’t a GPC member like me can’t stay.  Patricia was professional in saying this in an email to everyone.  Lynn didn’t have to tell me to “shut my mouth and leave.”

 

I didn’t like Lois and Lynn ridiculing the idea of a civil claim and insinuating that there is something inherently wrong with suing someone.  Anyone who thinks that there is always something wrong with suing someone is extremely ignorant and is being extremely disrespectful to civil lawyers.  If an insurance company won’t pay a premium, what better recourse do you have to get your money?  If a cop breaks your ribs for speeding, what better recourse do you have to get financial compensation?  If a business is causing environmental damage to your property, what better recourse do you have to get financial compensation?

 

The courts are one of the greatest tools for getting justice and for achieving social change.  They can petition and protest till hell freezes over and it will have a fraction of the impact that a single civil claim can.  I rarely get involved in petitioning and protesting because I like to fight my battles in the courts, which are much more effective.

 

I also didn’t like everyone except Larry attacking me simultaneously without me being given a chance to respond to each attack.

 

All of the above me actually left me involuntarily physically shaking with anger for about 10 minutes.  I don’t know if anyone noticed.  I was actually sitting there and wondering if I got Parkinson’s disease until the shaking went away after 10 minutes.  The only other time I shook with anger was one of the many times I was racially profiled at a border crossing.

 

Nobody has the right to know the lies being spread about me and nobody is ever going to hear them.

 

Also, I never called Schwarz a racist.  Don’t make stuff up.

 

If Finley and Gall didn’t want to be attacked by me, they shouldn’t have attacked me with lies and made up lies about me (they both absolutely made up lies about me) and said I did things that I didn’t do.  The difference between me and them is I attacked back with the truth.  It’s below me to spread lies and fabricate lies like they did.

 

I believe that if I were a white female who never served and Zimmerman were a brown male veteran, Finley would have never taken Zimmerman seriously and would have believed me.  In fact, Gall said that I should reduce my associations with the Green Parties because the media would take Zimmerman more seriously because she’s female.  According to Gall’s logic, I should reduce my associations with the Green Party due to bigotry against males.  That’s like saying I should reduce my associations with the Green Party due to bigotry against nonwhite people.

 

I talked to one of Zimmerman’s friends a few days ago because I need to show the court that I made significant effort to track her down to serve her with a civil claim before they’ll give me an order of substitutional service against her.  Zimmerman’s Christian friend told me that he agrees with me on my civil rights cases and that Zimmerman considers herself a soldier of God.  That’s the kind of craziness I gotta deal with.

 

All of my problems with these trolls (Zimmerman and Elvin Lau) and their lies spread to Greens were caused by my civil rights cases.  For fighting for religious equality for everyone including Christians, this is the B.S. I gotta keep dealing with.

 

Which Green will be contacted next by Zimmerman or Elvin Lau to try to cause problems for me and the party?

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From: Sandra Finley
Sent: June-07-13 7:50 PM
To: ‘Patricia Farnese’
Subject: RE: Ashu called me this morning

Thanks Patricia for handling this in an honest and fair way.   It is very helpful to the working of the group, but I think it will also be potentially helpful to Ashu.  Will see how it unfolds in the longer term.

Sandra

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From: Patricia Farnese
Sent: May-30-13 8:38 AM
To: Marlene Wells
Cc: Sandra Lynne Finley
Subject: Re: Ashu called me this morning

 

I also met with him yesterday and explained a few of my concerns. He really wants a title. I don’t think it’s a power trip, but firm belief that something official sounding will help him land a job in the future.

He quite frankly said he doesn’t want to be an unemployed activist for the rest of his life.  I talked about what that title could be and that we are concerned that the Wrong title may send the message to him and others that he operates independently from the group. I suggested something like Events Chair as, to me, it denotes leadership not authority. He wants something with officer in the title.

We also talked about his human rights complaint and how many of us do not wish to have that issue associated with the GPC. He respects that and took down the posts. He also seemed to understand my perspective that Public discussion of GPC issues is a collective decision of the EDA.

Finally, I spoke about his desire to be a candidate. I talked about the process including the impact of any decision to cooperate and vetting by campaign committee.  I suggested that his intent to focus on fringe issues will likely be problematic in that process.

All in all, it was a good conversation. Pf

Sent from my iPhone

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On 2013-05-30, at 7:00 AM, Marlene Wells wrote:

Hey gals,

Ashu called me this morning.  He asked me a lot of questions regarding the EDA elections and AGM…

I told him that:

1. I had been in contact with the EDA executive and talked about the rules, and that they need to be followed.

2. At this point we need to let some time go by to let this settle down.

3. If he has an issue with the AGM being put off till the fall that he should bring it up with the executive, but that he must then abide by the decision that is made by that body.

4. I didn’t see any point in appointing anyone to the Exec if there is an AGM coming soon. (He was very adamant that there should be people appointed as Sandra is leaving and that the EDA will go dormant before an AGM in the Fall)  I told him that by appointing people we are taking away from the voice of the membership. He said that people won’t do the work if they don’t have a title.  I told him that if people are only doing the work because they have a title, then maybe they are not in it for the right reasons.

5. The will of the membership must be paramount here.  Since there has been a bit of a ‘debocle’ in the last month, perhaps some time is warranted to let it settle.

 

I didn’t acknowledge his email to me about quitting.  I didn’t see the point in getting into that.

He was very respectful, and seemed to understand.  There was no argument.

 

Please let me know if you have any questions.

 

Marlene WELLS
Organizer | Organisatrice
Green Party of Canada | Parti vert du Canada

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TITLE:  Ashu Solo, emails sent January 18

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January-18-14 9:59 PM    Finley,  Get a life, Finley.

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-18-14 9:59 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: RE: Army pictures of me

 

Finley,

 

Get a life, Finley.  You caused all of this by spreading lies and fabricating lies about me.  Get a life.  Zimmerman could sell you a bridge.  Move on with your life and find something productive to do.  You don’t  know how badly you’ve harmed your reputation by spreading and fabricating lies about me.  You were respected before by some people.  Now nobody respects you.  Just go away and maybe people will one day forget about what you did. I guarantee you’ll never be allowed back in the GPS and you’re about to get kicked out of the GPC.  Spreading lies might have worked with other people in the past, but I don’t tolerate that bullshit.  I ethically and lawfully defend myself.  Your blog indicates that you’ve been looking for dirt on me since Aug. 2013.  You can never get dirt on me that sticks because I’ve NEVER done anything wrong.

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January-18-14 11:30 PM    Everyone thinks you’re a kook

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-18-14 11:30 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: RE: Army pictures of me

 

Everyone thinks you’re a kook for having info. on my family and me on your blog.  Everyone thinks you’re obsessed with bringing me down for having so many blog posts on me and my family, gathering info. on me since Aug. 2013, and sending bullshit complaints of lies to people.  Everyone thinks you’re gullible and stupid for believing whatever Zimmerman told you.  The best thing you can do for yourself is go away and hope people forget what a jackass you are.  YOU’LL NEVER GET DIRT ON ME THAT STICKS CUZ I’VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG.  You’re also gonna have your assets and money seized by the Sheriff’s Office and have your income garnished for the rest of your life by the Sheriff’s Office after I’m done suing you.

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TITLE:  January 19 – 20.  Including more phone calls to my Mother

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January-19-14 10:22 AM  THE SNARKY EMAILS

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-19-14 10:22 AM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: RE: Army pictures of me

 

THE SNARKY EMAILS REFERRED TO ARE ABOUT YOU.  PEOPLE WHO WERE ONCE YOUR FRIENDS AND WHO ONCE RESPECTED YOU ARE RIDICULING HOW GULLIBLE AND STUPID YOU ARE, HOW OBSESSED YOU ARE WITH BRINGING ME DOWN, AND HOW CREEPY IT IS FOR YOU TO HAVE ALL OF THESE BLOG POSTS ON MY FAMILY AND ME.  ZIMMERMAN COULD TELL YOU I’M A PEDOPHILE AND AN ANIMAL TORTURER AND YOU’D BE GULLIBLE AND STUPID ENOUGH TO BELIEVE IT AND SPREAD THOSE LIES TO EVERYONE.  GRAB A BRAIN.  GET A LIFE.  FIND SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE TO DO WITH YOUR TIME.  MONEY THAT COULD BE GOING TO YOUR DAUGHTER WILL NOW BE GOING TO ME AFTER I’M DONE SUING YOU.

 

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January-19-14 9:42 PM   FINLEY,   I CAN SEE THAT YOU’VE GIVEN

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-19-14 9:42 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Cc: Larry Waldinger; Patricia Farnese; Kaitlyn Harvey; ‘Mark Bigland-Pritchard / Low Energy Design Ltd’; Vicki Strelioff; Victor Lau; John Murney
Subject: FINLEY, I WANT MY FAMILY’S INFO ON YOUR BLOG NOW

 

FINLEY,

 

I CAN SEE THAT YOU’VE GIVEN PEOPLE IN SASKATOON THE PASSWORD FOR YOUR BLOG POSTS ON ME AND MY FAMILY AND THEY’RE LINKING TO MY WEB SITES FROM YOUR BLOG.  WHO ARE YOU GIVING THE PASSWORD TO?  I DON’T WANT PEOPLE GETTING INFORMATION ON MY FAMILY BECAUSE I HAVE NUMEROUS ENEMIES FROM MY CIVIL RIGHTS CASES AND IT ENDANGERS THEM.  I WANT ALL OF THE INFORMATION ON MY FAMILY AND THEIR LAST NAME OFF YOUR BLOG IMMEDIATELY.  I’VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLSHIT.  YOUR ENDANGERING THE SAFETY OF MY FAMILY.  I’M GONNA KEEP COPYING THE EDA ON THIS UNTIL IT’S DONE.  I DON’T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS.  I WON’T TOLERATE ANYONE ENDANGERING MY FAMILY.  YOU’VE GOT SERIOUS ISSUES TO BE GATHERING INFO. ON ME AND MY FAMILY SINCE AUGUST AND GIVING THIS INFO OUT TO PEOPLE NOW.  THE ONLY REASON YOU WOULD BE GATHERING THIS INFO IS TO LOOK FOR A WAY TO BRING ME DOWN.  GET A LIFE AND FIND SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE TO DO WITH YOUR TIME.  I WON’T TOLERATE YOU ENDANGERING MY FAMILY.  I WANT THE INFO ON MY FAMILY REMOVED IMMEDIATELY.

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January-19-14 9:50 PM    YOU’RE ENDANGING MY FAMILY

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-19-14 9:50 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Cc: Larry Waldinger; Patricia Farnese; Kaitlyn Harvey; ‘Mark Bigland-Pritchard / Low Energy Design Ltd’; Vicki Strelioff; votelau@gmail.com; John Murney
Subject: RE: FINLEY, I WANT MY FAMILY’S INFO ON YOUR BLOG NOW

 

YOU’RE ENDANGING MY FAMILY, FINLEY, AND I WON’T TOLERATE THIS.  ONLY SOMEONE WITH EXTREMELY SERIOUS ISSUES WOULD GATHER INFO. ON SOMEONE’S FAMILY LIKE FINLEY HAS DONE SINCE AUG. 2013 AND STICK THAT ON BLOG POSTS AND THEN GIVE THE PASSWORD FOR THOSE BLOG POSTS TO PEOPLE LIKE FINLEY IS NOW DOING.  YOU’RE CYBERSTALKING MY DAD IN AN EXTREMELY CREEPY MANNER, FINLEY.  MY DAD IS EXTREMELY HAPPILY MARRIED TO MY MOM, FINLEY.  HE ISN’T GOING TO GET DIVORCED LIKE YOU KEEP DOING.  HE HAS NO INTEREST IN A DESPICABLE PERSON LIKE YOU.  I WANT THE INFORMATION ON MY FAMILY OFF YOUR BLOG NOW.  I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE GREEN PARTY OR ABOUT BOTHERING GREEN PARTY MEMBERS.  I DON’T CARE IF I’M NO LONGER PART OF THE FAMILY.  I CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF MY FAMILY.  AND I’M GONNA KEEP EMAILING EVERYONE UNTIL THIS INFORMATION ON MY FAMILY IS OFF YOUR BLOG.

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January-19-14 9:56 PM   STOP ENDANGERING MY FAMILY 

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-19-14 9:56 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Cc: Larry Waldinger; Patricia Farnese; Kaitlyn Harvey; ‘Mark Bigland-Pritchard / Low Energy Design Ltd’; Vicki Strelioff; Victor Lau; John Murney
Subject: STOP ENDANGERING MY FAMILY. I WANT MY FAMILY’S INFO OFF YOUR BLOG NOW.

 

STOP ENDANGERING MY FAMILY.  I WANT MY FAMILY’S INFO OFF YOUR BLOG NOW.  PEOPLE HAVE ASKED YOU FOR THIS AND YOU’VE REFUSED TO DO THIS.  YOU’RE A CYBERSTALKER AND A CYBERBULLY.  STOP HARASSING ME AND LEAVE ME AND MY FAMILY ALONE.  GET A LIFE AND FIND SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE TO DO WITH YOUR TIME OTHER THAN ENDANGERING MY FAMILY.

 

I CAN SEE THAT YOU’VE GIVEN PEOPLE IN SASKATOON THE PASSWORD FOR YOUR BLOG POSTS ON ME AND MY FAMILY AND THEY’RE LINKING TO MY WEB SITES FROM YOUR BLOG.

 

HAVE YOU GIVEN THIS INFO. TO ZIMMERMAN?

 

I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE GREEN PARTY OR I’M BOTHERING GREEN PARTY MEMBERS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY.  I DON’T CARE IF I’M NO LONGER PART OF THE PARTY.  I CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF MY FAMILY.

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January 19-14  11:30 PM    Ashu phoned my Mother.  She did not answer. 

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January-20-14 12:26 AM    I CAN SEE ZIMMERMAN LINKED

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-20-14 12:26 AM
To: Sandra Finley
Cc: Larry Waldinger; Patricia Farnese; Kaitlyn Harvey; ‘Mark Bigland-Pritchard / Low Energy Design Ltd’; Vicki Strelioff; votelau@gmail.com; John Murney
Subject: FINLEY HAS GIVEN INFO ON MY DAD TO ZIMMERMAN

 

I CAN SEE ZIMMERMAN LINKED TO MY WEB SITES FROM FINLEY’S BLOG.  I CAN SEE ZIMMERMAN’S PREVIOUS VISITS TO MY WEB SITES.  FINLEY IS TRYING TO HARM MY FAMILY.  SHE KNOWS I HAVE MANY ENEMIES FROM MY CIVIL RIGHTS CASES AND NOW SHE’S GIVING INFO ON MY FAMILY TO ZIMMERMAN.  FINLEY IS A HARASSER, CYBERBULLY, AND CYBERSTALKER OF MY FAMILY.  GET A FUCKIN’ LIFE, FINLEY.

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January-20-14 7:11 AM    YOU’RE ALL ENCOURAGING FINLEY

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-20-14 7:11 AM
To: Sandra Finley
Cc: Larry Waldinger; Patricia Farnese; Kaitlyn Harvey; ‘Mark Bigland-Pritchard / Low Energy Design Ltd’; Vicki Strelioff; Victor Lau; John Murney
Subject: YOU’RE ALL ENCOURAGING FINLEY

 

YOU’RE ALL ENCOURAGING FINLEY BY REMAINING FRIENDS WITH HER ON FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER AND REMAINING CIVIL AND FRIENDLY WITH HER WHILE SHE’S CLEARLY CYBERSTALKING MY FAMILY AND ME AND HARASSING MY FAMILY AND ME.  WHY DON’T YOU BECOME FRIENDS WITH MORE CYBERSTALKERS AND HARASSERS?  JUST BECAUSE SHE’S A GREEN, IT DOESN’T MEAN HER BEHAVIOR IS ACCEPTABLE.  ONLY THE CREEPIEST CYBERSTALKER WOULD COLLECT INFO. ON MY DAD AND STICK IT ON HER BLOG AND NOW GIVE IT TO ZIMMERMAN.  I HAVE NUMEROUS ENEMIES FROM MY CIVIL RIGHTS CASES AND FINLEY IS ENDANGING MY FAMILY, EVEN AFTER BEING WARNED ABOUT THIS.

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January-20-14 7:33 AM   YOU WANT TO DRIVE ME OUT

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-20-14 7:33 AM
To: Sandra Finley
Cc: Larry Waldinger; Patricia Farnese; Kaitlyn Harvey; ‘Mark Bigland-Pritchard / Low Energy Design Ltd’; Vicki Strelioff; Victor Lau; John Murney
Subject: RE: YOU’RE ALL ENCOURAGING FINLEY

 

YOU WANT TO DRIVE ME OUT OF THE GREEN PARTY, FINLEY?  I DON’T FUCKIN’ CARE.  BUT I DO CARE ABOUT YOU ENDANGERING MY FAMILY, WHICH IS WHAT YOU’RE PURPOSELY DOING.  YOU HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES TO BE COLLECTING INFO. ON MY DAD AND NOW GIVING THIS INFO. TO ZIMMERMAN.  ARE YOU INTERESTED IN MY DAD?  HE’S EXTREMELY HAPPILY MARRIED TO MY MOM.  GET A LIFE.  YOU HAVE SOME OBSESSION ISSUES TO BE GATHERING INFO. ON ME SINCE AUG. 2013.  NOW ZIMMERMAN ALSO HAS THE EMAILS BETWEEN OUR EDA AND CAN SEE HOW MUCH OF AN UPROAR SHE CAUSED WITHIN THE EDA.  SHE’LL ENJOY THAT.

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January-20-14 8:09 AM   DO PEOPLE ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN FAMILIES

 

From: Ashu M. G. Solo [mailto:amgsolo@mavericktechnologies.us]
Sent: January-20-14 8:09 AM
To: Sandra Finley
Cc: Larry Waldinger; Patricia Farnese; Kaitlyn Harvey; ‘Mark Bigland-Pritchard / Low Energy Design Ltd’; Vicki Strelioff; Victor Lau; John Murney
Subject: RE: YOU’RE ALL ENCOURAGING FINLEY

 

DO PEOPLE ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN FAMILIES AND THEMSELVES?  I THOUGHT GREENS WERE BETTER THAN THAT.  WILL YOU ALL BE FRIENDLY WITH AND FRIENDS WITH FINLEY AND FRIENDS WITH HER ON FACEBOOK UNLESS SHE STARTS CYBERSTALKING YOUR FAMILIES AND ENDANGERING YOUR FAMILIES?  I HOPE SHE NEVER DOES THAT.  YOU DON’T KNOW HOW UNNERVING AND DISTRESSING IT IS TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE FINLEY CYBERSTALKING AND ENDANGERING MY FAMILY AND COLLECTING ON MY FAMILY AND ME SINCE AUG. 2013 AND MAKING IT HER MISSION IN LIFE TO FIND SOME KIND OF DIRT OF ME TO GET ME KICKED OUT OF THE PARTY AND NOW GIVING INFO ON MY FAMILY AND ME TO SOMEONE NAMED ZIMMERMAN WHO HAS BEEN CYBERSTALKING, CYBERBULLYING, AND HARASSING ME SINCE DEC. 2012.

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January 20-14  9:00 AM 

and continuing    Ashu phoned my Mother repeatedly.  She did not answer.  

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What triggered the renewed attacks on Zimmerman after Christmas?  And the accusation made at the airport by Ashu that I had given Zimmerman his Father’s name?    . . .   Zimmerman had called Ashu’s Father.  See Nov 29 resumed.

(John Gormley anticipated renewed attacks and had given her information so she could fight back.)

 

From: Sandra Finley
Sent: December-30-13 10:29 PM
To: LarryGRN Waldinger
Subject: don’t like to phone at this hour

Hi Larry,

One of the messages in my inbox just now probably answers the question of why Ashu accused me of giving his Father’s name to Tonia Zimmerman.  Circumstantial evidence suggests I did (the posting on my blog) – – except that he made the accusation at the Saskatoon airport,  well before I put the posting up late yesterday after arrival in B.C..

I would appreciate if you could keep the following confidential – it was given to me in confidence:   Another person DID give Ashu’s father’s name to T Zimmerman, along with more background on Ashu, because of her concern for her safety – – it was thought that maybe the Father could convince Ashu to cease and desist.  Didn’t work out that way.  Instead, it seems to have added more fuel.

The person who supplied the info to T Zimmerman is well-known and an older member of the Saskatoon society, not out to get Ashu, but willing to help T Zimmerman find some way to relieve the fears for her personal safety.  I am sorry, it would not be appropriate for me to disclose the name, as mentioned.  Although the time will probably come when I can fill in what details I know (the name and a bit more, not much), to you.

All the best,  I am sure things will all work out.

 

Sandra

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