CARL JUNG, in interview, 1959> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBYEFX2dqpM
We need more understanding of human nature, because the only danger that exists is man himself — he is the great danger, and we are pitifully unaware of it. We know nothing of man — far too little.
FREEMAN: As the world becomes more technically efficient, it seems increasingly necessary for people to behave communally and collectively, now do you think it’s possible that the highest development of man may be to submerge his own individuality in a kind of collective consciousness?
JUNG: That’s hardly possible. I think there will be a reaction — a reaction will set in against this communal dissociation.
You know, man doesn’t stand forever, his nullification. Once, there will be a reaction, and I see it setting in, you know, when I think of my patients, they all seek their own existence and to assure their existence against that complete atomization into nothingness or into meaninglessness.
Man cannot stand a meaningless life.
2021-02-08
Hi Sandra,
Thank you for the response and address! I’ll see if the binding company can ship direct to Canada, otherwise once I get the copies here I’ll send one your way. I’ll be curious to see what you think of the work and to hear any feedback you have,
I’m out of Seattle now. Living in the city with all the upset and working from home at the same time was unnerving. I am more out in the country side now. And it is better.
I appreciate the video of Jung. Strangely I’ve never watched actual footage of him and this will be interesting to check out.
I did graduate – but please just call me Adam.
Will be in touch again soon – thank you!
-Adam
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:58 AM Sandra Finley wrote:
So good to hear from you, Adam.
Congratulations on getting your dissertation to the printers! Maybe it feels like you are so light, you can fly now.
You were in my thoughts, yesterday in particular.
If you are still working in the same field of study,
I was thinking you might be interested.
Yesterday, a friend of 5 years recounted what is to me, a pretty unique revelation or epiphany.
He had told me about it, maybe a year ago; yesterday in more detail.
I am hoping he will agree to let me write it down.
Oh! but I roam across borders: this may not fall within the confines of Hallucination.
I am looking forward to reading your work. I will have better understanding, even if your dissertation is for the purpose of proving that you understand and can apply “scientific” rigor in research. And so the volume might seem a bit tedious to you, but will not seem so to me.
I appended an excerpt, interview of Carl Jung, 1959, 18 months before his death.
I am most struck by the concluding line: Man cannot stand a meaningless life.
I always like that which reinforces my own views!
I hope you and your family are doing well. Are you still in Seattle?
Covid has its silver linings. One is your dissertation. I think that means the completion of your PhD? Shall I be addressing you as “Doctor Dear”?
Another important silver lining is the respite it offers to a planet and creatures under siege.
I like hugs. I am feeling slightly deprived.
I am sending big, warm ones your way.
Sandra
CARL JUNG, in interview, 1959> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBYEFX2dqpM
We need more understanding of human nature, because the only danger that exists is man himself — he is the great danger, and we are pitifully unaware of it. We know nothing of man — far too little.
FREEMAN: As the world becomes more technically efficient, it seems increasingly necessary for people to behave communally and collectively, now do you think it’s possible that the highest development of man may be to submerge his own individuality in a kind of collective consciousness?
JUNG: That’s hardly possible. I think there will be a reaction — a reaction will set in against this communal dissociation.
You know, man doesn’t stand forever, his nullification. Once, there will be a reaction, and I see it setting in, you know, when I think of my patients, they all seek their own existence and to assure their existence against that complete atomization into nothingness or into meaninglessness.
Man cannot stand a meaningless life.
From: Adam
Sent: February 3, 2021 5:56 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: Re: Congratulations on completion of your thesis!
Hi Sandra,
It has been a long time and I hope that you are doing well.
I’m finally sending the dissertation in to a printer and want to send you a copy! What address would be best? I think I can set it up so that the printer just ships one directly to you after binding but if not I’ll mail from USPS.
I’m glad things are starting to get back to normal again and hopefully the world is turning the bend on the virus.
Best regards,
-Adam
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 7:27 PM Sandra Finley wrote:
All’s good Adam!
And thanks for your reply. Details noted.
/Sandra
From: Adam Pierce
Sent: February 3, 2020 5:19 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: Re: Congratulations on completion of your thesis!
Hi Sandra,
Thank you for the email and the invitation to Victoria. I wouldn’t feel good having an expenses paid trip to the city (though this is very kind of you!) but I’ll be sure to reach out if I travel to Victoria in the future. I’m planning on printing up the dissertation this month so if you send me your address I can send you a physical copy! I’m going to begin working on the pamphlet I hope to make for hospitals and programs dealing with psychosis and I’ll be sure to send you a copy of this as well once it is complete as well (might be a few months). Thank you as well for the the book recommendation on the Tau of synchronicity. I’ve read Jung’s original work on synchronicity but haven’t yet seen this book. My reading list is overloaded at the moment but I’ll put this on as a reminder to get from the library during my next leisure reading trip.
I hope things are well and that you are enjoying your moment of synchronism.
Best regards,
-Adam
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:22 AM Sandra Finley wrote:
Hi Adam,
It was so good to hear your news!
If the book below has not come to your attention, if your time and proclivity permit, I invite you to Victoria where I am soon going. I just returned home from a few days there – – left a loose end behind that I’d like to tie up.
Your travel, your own room at the Oak Bay Guest House (includes a very good breakfast), two nights, would be covered.
I have just gone through a series of events that I describe as “highly synchronistic”.
The book – – originally published in 1979, “The Tao of Psychology” (a snippet from Amazon below). The picture on Amazon is the 25th anniversary edition. The book is still around in a much plainer cover, but same content. Russell’s Bookstore in Victoria has a copy with the plainer cover.
Best wishes,
Sandra
The Tao of Psychology: Synchronicity and the Self Paperback – January 18, 2005
by Jean Shinoda Bolen M.D. (Author)
Understanding the Moments That Touch and Transform Our Lives
Who hasn’t experienced that eerie coincidence, that sudden, baffling insight, that occasional flash of extrasensory perception that astonishes? Can these events be dismissed as mere chance, or do they have some deeper significance for us?
The twenty-fifth anniversary edition of this classic explores the inter-relationship between these meaningful coincidences and our intuitive sense that we are part of some deep oneness with the
From: Pierce, Adam
Sent: January 2, 2020 12:31 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: Re: Congratulations on completion of your thesis!
Hello Sandra!!!
Thank you for the email and the congratulations. I did indeed defend and just got everything uploaded to the library system. I’ll be sending out physical or digital copies of the dissertation for those who requested this over the next month or so. I’m overall happy with how the thesis ended up but am looking forward to the next phase where I attend conferences, write manuscripts and try to translate the findings into something more meaningful and applicable to the community. The document is very large and probably won’t be the most exciting read but I know you are interested so will definitely send it.
I unfortunately won’t be in Saskatoon in spring as I am back in Seattle. They will be closing my email down soon so you can reach me in the future at —
I’ll reach out again soon to get the address you want me to mail the document to. Feel free to send me things you come across that you think might be relevant!
Happy New Year and I hope things are well. Feels good to be in the northwest for sure = )
Best,
-Adam
From: Sandra Finley
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 6:24 PM
To: Adam
Subject: Congratulations on completion of your thesis!
Hi Adam,
RE: The book WAYS TO GO BEYOND, AND WHY THEY WORK by biologist Rupert Sheldrake
He mentions their data base – – 10,000 stories of experiences
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I seemed to need to track you down.
Maybe for more than one reason. To congratulate you on completion of your PhD. That is very exciting news. Way to go!
Perhaps to wish you Merry Christmas – – maybe you are visiting family in Seattle during the Christmas season. That would be good!
Perhaps it’s because I occasionally see something and think – Adam might be interested in that?! But I’ve been out-of-touch for a spell. The only email address I have is @ usask. But I was thinking you were in North Dakota (wrong!).
It’s most recently because I had been looking at the work (youtubes) of Rupert Sheldrake. And have ordered his new book. (don’t think I ever received it.
The following is the pasted-together note to myself.
All the best, I trust things go well.
Sandra
Re-contacted Adam, researcher who went to N. Dakota
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Sequel to: earlier book “Science and Spirituality”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDbnkceo-3g
New Book: WAYS TO GO BEYOND, AND WHY THEY WORK
Mentions data base, 10,000 stories of experiences
Psychedelics as a way to open up spiritually. (Transcribe?)
Sports as a spiritual practice
Belief in fasting. He does once a year.
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Sheldrake’s website https://www.sheldrake.org/
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Rupert Sheldrake – The Science Delusion BANNED TED TALK
1,602,670 views
- Mar 15, 2013
22K1.8KSHARESAVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHUaNAxsTg
Dr. Rupert Sheldrake talks about his banned TED talk on Skeptiko with Alex Tsakiris 02/04/2013
377,829 views
- Apr 3, 2013
(His book “Science Set Free”)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAuxXvNVhgA
“. . . a paradigm shift in action . . .”
Demonstrates “. . . empowerment of people . . . “
”. . . materialist dogma . . . “
Talks also about upcoming events:
“Science and Spirituality” talk at Hollyhock on Cortes Island in the Salish Sea, with his two sons (I signed up for this) Covid interfered.
Talk at Big Sur, Eslin Institute
Main activity, current research: Morphic Resonance
Access the full transcript of the talk here. Here are my favorite portions.
“There’s a conflict in the heart of science between science as a method of inquiry based on reason, evidence, hypothesis and collective investigation, and science as a belief system or a world view. And unfortunately the world view aspect of science has come to inhibit and constrict the free inquiry which is the very lifeblood of the scientific endeavor.”
“Since the late 19th century, science has been conducted under the aspect of a belief system or a world view which is essentially that of materialism — philosophical materialism. And the sciences are now wholly owned subsidiaries of the materialist worldview. I think that as we break out of it, the sciences will be regenerated.”
(…)
“In an evolutionary universe, why shouldn’t the laws themselves evolve? After all, human laws do, and the idea of laws of nature is based on a metaphor with human laws. It’s a very anthropocentric metaphor; only humans have laws. In fact, only civilized societies have laws. As C.S. Lewis once said, to say that a stone falls to earth because it’s obeying a law makes it a man, and even a citizen. It’s a metaphor that we’ve got so used to we forget it’s a metaphor.” –Rupert Sheldrake
Graham Hancock | The War on Consciousness
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https://news.usask.ca/articles/colleges/2019/hallucination-care-and-collaboration.php

Hallucination care and collaboration
Everyone is capable of having a hallucination, and there is a possibility you’ve experienced one before.
By Chris Morin
While some hallucinations happen in mental health contexts, they can also happen under fairly normal circumstances. In fact, there is a window of time—typically when we are drifting in and out of sleep—when anybody is susceptible to having one, according to Adam Pierce, a PhD student in the Department of Psychology at the University of Saskatchewan (USask).
To some, this may seem unorthodox or even alarming. Historically, hallucinations were long considered the stuff of psychoses or drug trips, not a regular and inconsequential part of life. These perceptions are something that Pierce hopes to change.
“There have also been community studies that have been done that point to evidence that there are many people out there who have light visual or auditory hallucinations,” said Pierce, who is currently in the final year completing his clinical training. “And they wouldn’t seek any sort of treatment for these because they aren’t problematic. We can’t exactly say why these hallucinations happen. They just do.”
As part of his research, Pierce has been interviewing individuals on campus and in the community to share their visual and auditory experiences, with a specific interest in the social sharing context and the conversations that occurred about the hallucinations. Having worked in community health, he became interested in this research due to his work with people with mental health issues. While he acknowledges that hallucinations can be distressing, he hopes these interviews will lead to more conversations about something previously thought of as taboo.
“A major component of my reason for doing this research is trying to bust up some of the popular conceptions around hallucinations as pathological and to help friends and family members of individuals who hallucinate, as well as the individuals themselves,” said Pierce. “I was co-facilitating these groups where people were talking about the first experiences they had sharing these hallucinations with friends and family, and they weren’t always getting a very good response when they described hearing or seeing something. What I realized was that many of these people hadn’t talked these experiences through.”
Although he admits that the subject of hallucinations can often be difficult to navigate, Pierce said that offering support is key for helping others navigate the experience. Having completed his undergraduate studies and his master’s in Seattle, where he studied phenomenology, when it came time to do his PhD in clinical psychology, Pierce said that USask was the perfect place to complete his research.
“The psychology department here is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to qualitative research, and faculty who are incredibly knowledgeable. My supervisor, Dr. Linda McMullen (PhD), has been outstanding and incredibly supportive.”
Having conducted his interviews across campus, Pierce said that support has permeated throughout his own research. While for some, it can be frightening that someone they know quite well has had hallucinatory experiences, many of the people he has interviewed are very supportive.
“The overall goal is to get the general public to be more thoughtful about these experiences, and if somebody is going through this themselves or with somebody that they love, having relevant information would be incredibly helpful,” he said. “This isn’t just a mental health issue, but something that could potentially affect anyone.”
Crowd behaviour, as a social phenomenon, is rooted in psychological factors arising from instincts, impulses, and unconscious mental processes. The Psychology of the Masses is about how and why people are so groupish. Nearly all of us seem to believe that our ideas and habits are freely chosen, not the result of the accidents of our environment; however, most of us tend to believe and do what the people around us believe and do. Summary. When one is a member of a crowd, one gives up part of one’s personality and blends into the crowd soul. One becomes more emotional and gullible, logic and evidence lose their power. A crowd is therefore easier to influence and thus tends to be more dangerous.
Interestingly, a pivotal book https://mentua.org/a-book-summary-of-psychology-of-the-masses-by-gustave-le-bon/ was written in 1895. He discusses the loss of individual responsibility and the decrease in intelligence that occurs when individuals come together in a crowd. The author also notes the increase in suggestibility and the emergence of primitive instincts, such as violence and mob mentality.” In this case Bill 36 outcomes..
Hi Sandra
I was an RN for 45 years. I’m 72. The rate of seniors entering retirement is unchanged from 2020-2030. At that point it will slow, but continue to climb to 2100. This is a worldwide, historically unprecedented demography. I’ve been cancelled. As an old white male I have no credibility- personally or professionally. My kids don’t listen to me, nor does by brother and his wife.
I agree the health care system is in trouble. It began transferring responsibility from the employer to the employees 20 years ago. This was worsened by Harper firing scientists at the national, political level. This (to me) explains the removal of medial doctors’ representation. I believe Bill 36 is a provincial extension of MeToo and cancel culture. Cancel culture is now cannibalizing feminism. In this case, BCNU is already predicting public pillorying will occur. On the good side, McCarthyism in 1945 slowed and ended with the public bullying, but the moral ethics of the day were more conservative. It’s a pendulum, and who knows when it will reverse?
Of course I’ll vote the best I can. Best of luck
Adrian Mulholland
From: Sandra Finley <xcorp@shaw.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 4:26 PM
To: A M <amulholland@shaw.ca>
Subject: For Your Selection December, 2023
Hi Adrian,
You may be interested in the following re current status of Bill 36 – – Health Professions & Occupations.
It’s hard to believe that it has not yet been stopped.
I think that not enough people know “what’s going on!”.
Wishing you and your family warmth, joy and peace in the Christmas season,
Sandra Finley
Qualicum 250-594-9898
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I cannot overemphasize the importance of Bill 36. The battle is STILL on-going.
2023-12-06 Bill 36 (B.C.) is the Health Professions & Occupations Act. First class tyranny. But we can stop it, by pitching in to help the Canadian Society for Science & Ethics in Medicine. Just spread the word. (The Government relies on people “not knowing”.)
The Act was passed a year ago. BUT! all the associated Regulations are not yet in place. Read the 8 points at the link. The legislation is fascist. Outrageous. The young women in my MLA’s office offered to call me back with an update after they give my message to the MLA. I asked them not to phone unless the bill has been REPEALED. That’s the only worthwhile update I want to hear!
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2023-12-04 Pastor challenges Dr. Bonnie Henry over illegal discrimination between faith groups. From the JCCF.
2023-11-29 B.C.: Bonnie Henry named as defendant in class-action lawsuit over her role in COVID-19 vaccine mandate
2023-12-01 Texas Sues Pfizer for ‘False’ and ‘Deceptive’ Marketing of COVID Vaccines, from CHD
Attorneys for the EPA late last week said the agency will appeal the September federal court ruling requiring it to regulate fluoride in water. Judge Edward Chen of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California ruled last year that water fluoridation at current levels in the U.S. poses an “unreasonable risk” of reducing IQ in children.
Attorneys for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) said Friday that the agency would appeal the September federal court ruling requiring it to regulate fluoride in water.
The agency’s notice, filed Friday with the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California in San Francisco, came just days ahead of today’s deadline for appeal.
It also came days before the Trump administration, which has signaled it may take action to end water fluoridation, took office.
U.S. District Judge Edward Chen ruled last year that water fluoridation at current levels in the U.S. poses an “unreasonable risk” of reducing IQ in children.
The EPA can no longer ignore that risk, and must take regulatory action, Chen said in the long-awaited landmark decision.
Michael Connett, lead attorney for the plaintiffs, wrote on X that the EPA’s decision last week has no binding effect on the Trump administration, which “can undo the decision on day one, or anytime thereafter.”
He said the Trump administration should welcome the court’s decision which “provides the new administration a clear legal pathway to ban fluoridation, which would bring the US in line with the vast majority of Europe.”
Chen’s verdict delivered a major blow to the EPA, public health agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and professional lobbying groups like the American Dental Association (ADA), which have staked their reputations on the claim that water fluoridation is one of the greatest public health achievements of the 20th century and an unqualified public good.
However, scientific understanding of fluoride evolved over the years to reveal fluoride’s toxic effects — including on children’s cognitive development — that were unknown or ignored when public health agencies began recommending communities add it to their water supplies nearly 70 years ago.
The ADA and other professional organizations that continue to defend their stance on fluoride have called for an appeal, while public health agencies have remained silent on the issue, or quietly backpedaled on it.
Commenting on the EPA’s planned appeal, Rick North, board member of Fluoride Action Network (FAN), one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the EPA, told The Defender, “This is just the latest in the series of attempts by the EPA to delay implementing rules that would protect the public.”
North said:
“Throughout the seven-year lawsuit, the EPA attempted every legal maneuver it could muster to prolong the proceedings. As even Judge Chen stated when rejecting one of the EPA’s requests for postponement, ‘justice delayed is justice denied.’”
In addition to the EPA’s motions seeking to delay the proceedings, documents obtained via Freedom of Information Act requests during the trial revealed attempts by lobbyists and officials within public health agencies to delay, weaken and suppress the research regarding fluoride’s harmful effects on children’s neurodevelopment.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) said on social media that Trump would push to end water fluoridation on his first day in office.
Kennedy’s comments triggered a wave of articles in the mainstream press defending the practice. However, some commenters conceded that conventional wisdom on fluoride needs to be revisited.
The EPA sets regulations for legally allowable exposure levels. However, the CDC, housed under the HHS, makes recommendations about water fluoridation levels.
In a statement, FAN said, “To protect future generations of Americans, the incoming administration can and should independently review the research on fluoridation and give incoming regulators who aren’t captured by special interests the opportunity to reconsider this decision.”
Since the trial, the HHS published a monograph concluding that higher levels of fluoride exposure in drinking water are consistently linked to lower IQ in children, and a study published in JAMA Network Open in May found that children born to women exposed during pregnancy to fluoridated drinking water in Los Angeles were more likely to have neurobehavioral problems.

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A meta-analysis published in JAMA Pediatrics also found that the more fluoride pregnant women and young children are exposed to, the greater the decrease in a child’s IQ.
Less than two weeks after Chen’s September 2024 ruling, Cochrane published an updated review concluding that adding fluoride to drinking water provides minimal, if any, dental benefits, especially compared with 50 years ago.
The EPA declined to comment on the appeal and referred The Defender to the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ).
Attorneys from the DOJ, which represents the EPA, did not provide details about the basis for the appeal. A DOJ spokesperson declined The Defender’s request for comment.
Related articles in The Defender:
- Breaking: Fluoride in Water Poses ‘Unreasonable Risk’ to Children, Federal Judge Rules
- Lobbyists for Pediatricians and Dentists Dig in on Water Fluoridation
- U.S. Surgeon General Quietly Backpedaled on Water Fluoridation 5 Years Ago, Emails Reveal
- Plaintiffs Ask Judge to Take Swift Action as Landmark Fluoride Trial Wraps Up
The pardon, retroactive to Jan. 1, 2014, addresses “any offenses” Fauci committed during this period, including in his former capacities as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, member of the White House COVID-19 Response Team and chief medical adviser to Biden.
In the final minutes of his administration, former President Joe Biden preemptively pardoned Dr. Anthony Fauci, in what The New York Times called “an extraordinary effort by an outgoing president to derail political prosecutions by an incoming president.”
The pardon, retroactive to Jan. 1, 2014, addresses “any offenses” Fauci committed during this period, including in his former capacities as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, member of the White House COVID-19 Response Team and chief medical adviser to Biden.
Fauci told The Hill he will accept the pardon.
“Issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense,” Biden said, according to ABC News. “Our nation owes these public servants a debt of gratitude for their tireless commitment to our country.”
Biden said the pardon was a response to “exceptional circumstances” within which public servants like Fauci “have been subjected to ongoing threats and intimidation for faithfully discharging their duties.”
“Even when individuals have done nothing wrong — and in fact have done the right thing — and will ultimately be exonerated, the mere fact of being investigated or prosecuted can irreparably damage reputations and finances,” Biden said, according to the Times.
Preemptive pardons aren’t unprecedented, but they’re rare, said Children’s Health Defense CEO Mary Holland. Holland questioned the need for a preemptive pardon, given that there hasn’t been a criminal investigation or any criminal conviction.
Trump responds to ‘disgraceful’ pardons
In a response shared via text message with ABC News, President Donald Trump called Biden’s pardons, which also included several members of his family, “disgraceful.”
According to Reuters, Trump said the pardons make the recipients “look very guilty.” Trump’s deputy chief of staff for communications and personnel said the pardons “will go down as the greatest attack on America’s justice system in history.”
Naomi Wolf, Ph.D., journalist and CEO of Daily Clout called the Fauci pardon “shocking and entirely predictable.” She said it constitutes “evidence of Biden’s awareness of Fauci’s criminal behavior and actions.”
Wolf, author of “The Pfizer Papers: Pfizer’s Crimes Against Humanity,” said the pardon also “raises serious questions about Biden’s complicity in many medical murders.”
Several of Fauci’s alleged medical crimes were listed in a statement by the Independent Medical Alliance — formerly the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance. These include coercing millions of people into getting the COVID-19 vaccines and discouraging the use of alternative treatments such as ivermectin, and collaborating with social media platforms to censor posts questioning the vaccines.
“The entire world is asking why Anthony Fauci needed a pardon if he’s supposedly done nothing wrong,” Independent Medical Alliance spokesperson Lynne Kristensen said in the statement. “In fact, Fauci led the ivory-tower medical establishment in a shameful COVID response that served as a wake-up call to front-line doctors across the globe.”
Rutgers University molecular biologist Richard Ebright, Ph.D., a frequent critic of gain-of-function research, said Fauci’s pardon was backdated to 2014 because that year “is the start date of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) grant that funded the reckless research in Wuhan, China, that caused COVID.”
“Fauci violated federal policies on gain-of-function research and enhanced potential pandemic pathogen research, committed conspiracy to defraud and perjury, used federal funds to commit crimes and caused a pandemic that killed 20 million and cost $25 trillion,” Ebright told The Defender. “The pardon is a travesty.”
Fauci told ABC News he was grateful for Biden’s pardon.
“I really truly appreciate the action President Biden has taken today on my behalf,” Fauci said. “Let me be perfectly clear … I have committed no crime, you know that, and there are no possible grounds for any allegation or threat of criminal investigation or prosecution of me.”
But for Jeffrey Tucker, director of the Brownstone Institute, “The pardoning of Fauci might help him personally now and he appears grateful. But it also cements in the public mind the worst-possible perception of his work and legacy.”
Ebright cited U.S. Supreme Court precedent. “The law of the land is absolutely clear. The Supreme Court ruled in Burdick v. United States, in 1915, that acceptance of a pardon implies an acknowledgment of guilt.”
Good for the U.S. – – Can we apply enough pressure to get Canada out of it, too?
Citing the WHO’s “mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic,” President Donald Trump on Monday signed an executive order withdrawing the U.S. from the organization. The process won’t be complete until January 2026.
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Within roughly 8 hours of taking his oath of office, President Donald Trump on Monday signed an order to withdraw the U.S. from the World Health Organization (WHO).
Trump’s executive order cited numerous reasons for pulling the U.S. out of the WHO, including:
“The organization’s mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic … and other global health crises, its failure to adopt urgently needed reforms, and its inability to demonstrate independence from the inappropriate political influence of WHO member states.”
The WHO also “continues to demand unfairly onerous payments” from the U.S., the order stated. “China, with a population of 1.4 billion, has 300 percent of the population of the United States, yet contributes nearly 90 percent less to the WHO.”
Commenting on the news, Children’s Health Defense (CHD) CEO Mary Holland told The Defender:
“I applaud President Trump’s decision to leave the World Health Organization. It hasn’t been transparent, based on science, or serving the U.S. interest in public health.
“The World Health Organization is not a reformable institution. Its proposed Pandemic Treaty is a nightmare and would lead to more gain-of-function research and pandemics.”
Holland said she hopes the move “will lead to a global reconsideration of how to handle public health and international crises.”
Public health physician and biotech consultant Dr. David Bell told The Defender, “WHO needs a radical shake-up.”
Bell, a former medical officer and scientist at the WHO, said the WHO needs a “massive downsizing” and “to return to basic public health rather than the profit-driven false agenda of rising pandemic risk that WHO has embarked on.”
For instance, Bell criticized recent WHO efforts to push the mpox vaccine in Africa, diverting resources from addressing far more deadly health issues, such as malaria, malnutrition, tuberculosis and HIV/AIDS.
“If WHO does not respond by a total reversal of direction and values,” Bell said, “then we should hope that this withdrawal goes forward and others join.”
Trump’s move came as no surprise. As early as December 2023, his transition team was pushing for an exit from the WHO on day one of the new administration.
U.S. law requires a one-year notice and the payment of any outstanding fees when the country withdraws from the WHO. That means the final full withdrawal will take effect in early 2026.
Monday’s executive order came as a follow-up to Trump’s efforts during his first presidential term to withdraw from the WHO.
In July 2020, Trump moved to officially withdraw the U.S. from the WHO by submitting a notice of withdrawal to the United Nations’ (U.N.) secretary-general.
The withdrawal would have taken effect July 6, 2021. However, Trump lost the 2020 presidential election to Joe Biden, who on Jan. 20, 2021, retracted Trump’s withdrawal notification letter.
Monday’s executive order revoked Biden’s letter. It also said the secretary of state would immediately inform the U.N.’s secretary-general — again — of the U.S. intention to withdraw.
The order also revoked another order Biden issued in January 2021 that called for a U.S. federal response to COVID-19 that included “engaging with and strengthening the World Health Organization.”
U.S. government personnel or contractors working “in any capacity” with the WHO will be recalled and reassigned, the order stated.
Investigative journalist Whitney Webb cautioned against reading too much into Trump’s withdrawal from the WHO.
She wrote in an X post:
“To be fair, Trump also left the WHO in mid-2020 and then just redirected what was once WHO funding to the Gates-funded GAVI vaccine alliance. While leaving the WHO is positive, it is not the slam dunk some are advertising, especially considering Gates’ recent comments on Trump’s enthusiasm for his ‘vaccine innovation’ proposals.”
U.S. is WHO’s biggest funder
The U.S. is by far the WHO’s largest financial backer, Reuters reported, providing roughly 18% of the organization’s overall budget.
The WHO’s most recent budget, for 2024-2025, was $6.8 billion.
The next-largest state donor — when combining mandatory fees and voluntary contributions — is Germany, which provides around 3%, Reuters said.
Germany’s health minister today said that leaders in Berlin will try to talk Trump out of his decision.
When asked about Trump’s order, Guo Jiakun — a spokesperson for China’s foreign ministry — said today at a regular press briefing that the WHO’s role in global health governance should be strengthened, not weakened.
“China will continue to support the WHO in fulfilling its responsibilities, and deepen international public health cooperation,” Jiakun said.
The WHO said in a statement that it regrets Trump’s decision. “We hope the United States will reconsider.”
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WHO pandemic treaty would have ‘no binding force’ in U.S.
Although the full withdrawal by the U.S. from the WHO won’t take effect until January 2026, Monday’s executive order said U.S. negotiations on a WHO-led pandemic treaty or amendments to the International Health Regulations (IHR) will cease immediately.
Independent journalist James Roguski pointed out on Substack that there aren’t any negotiations underway.
Negotiations stopped last May when negotiators failed to submit final texts for the two documents before the May 24 deadline.
Instead, member states on June 1, 2024, agreed to a smaller package of amendments.
Monday’s order closes the door to the possibility that the U.S. might resume negotiations during the next year — or implement the few IHR amendments passed last June. Trump’s order stated:
“While withdrawal is in progress, the Secretary of State will cease negotiations on the WHO Pandemic Agreement and the amendments to the International Health Regulations, and actions taken to effectuate such agreement and amendments will have no binding force on the United States.”
Roguski said Trump should go further by issuing a letter that revokes the amendments the WHO adopted on June 1, 2024, and clarifies that the U.S. “is also exiting the International Health Regulations.”
In May 2024, 22 state attorneys general said in a letter that they would refuse to comply with a WHO-led pandemic treaty or IHR amendments. They cited concerns about national sovereignty and civil liberties.
Dutch attorney Meike Terhorst told The Defender she was “delighted” by Trump’s announcement.
Terhorst said that she and other international lawyers who worked to stop the WHO’s “power grab” discovered that the U.S. delegation had been the “primary force behind the power grab.”

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Trump also signs order to end gov’t censorship
Other orders signed Monday include one that restores free speech and ends federal censorship of U.S. citizens.
“Over the last 4 years,” the order said, “the previous administration trampled free speech rights by censoring Americans’ speech on online platforms, often by exerting substantial coercive pressure on third parties, such as social media companies, to moderate, deplatform, or otherwise suppress speech that the Federal Government did not approve.”
It continued:
“Under the guise of combatting ‘misinformation,’ ‘disinformation,’ and ‘malinformation,’ the Federal Government infringed on the constitutionally protected speech rights of American citizens across the United States in a manner that advanced the Government’s preferred narrative about significant matters of public debate.
“Government censorship of speech is intolerable in a free society.”
That can’t happen anymore, the order said.
Citing the First Amendment, the order outlined what will now be the policy of the federal government when it comes to free speech. The government’s job is to:
(a) secure the right of the American people to engage in constitutionally protected speech;
(b) ensure that no Federal Government officer, employee, or agent engages in or facilitates any conduct that would unconstitutionally abridge the free speech of any American citizen;
(c) ensure that no taxpayer resources are used to engage in or facilitate any conduct that would unconstitutionally abridge the free speech of any American citizen; and
(d) identify and take appropriate action to correct past misconduct by the Federal Government related to censorship of protected speech.
No federal agency, department or worker can use government resources for an activity that contradicts that job, the order said.
The order also called on state attorneys general to investigate whether the Biden administration engaged in censorship of Americans’ views. It directed them to write a report about its findings that includes “recommendations for appropriate remedial actions to be taken based on the findings.”
It is unclear how the order may affect ongoing litigation related to federal censorship.
That’s because the order’s final clause states that the order is not intended to — and does not — “create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.”
On Jan. 6, CHD petitioned the Supreme Court to hear its case against Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram.
“The record in CHD v. Meta,” Holland said, “clearly shows Facebook’s close collaboration with the White House to censor vaccine-related speech, even pre-COVID.”
CHD General Counsel Kim Mack Rosenberg told The Defender she is “certainly pleased” to see the new administration take quick action to address the “rampant censorship by the government over the past four years and to investigate governmental wrongdoing.”
“However,” Rosenberg said, “CHD’s censorship cases will continue. We have provided the courts with substantial evidence of wrongdoing by the government and by social media companies against CHD.”
“The executive order — while a significant positive step — does not remedy the harms done to CHD,” she added.
These stories of people’s experiences are mind-blowing. They never cease to make my head shake in disbelief at what has happened and continues to happen.
I recommend:
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/events/the-peoples-study/vaccines-are-not-safe–vt/
. . . rhetoric surrounding vaccine injuries and how the mainstream narrative is one of denial when it comes to adverse events. Jennifer also shares how the education system influenced her view on immunizations and reveals the life experience which changed that perspective and initiated her involvement in the medical freedom movement.
IF WE ARE WRONG, have a dialogue and show us where we err.
I think it is more beneficial to hear what these “Davos” (WHO) people are saying, than to simply denounce them.
There are SO MANY compelling stories (in my mind they are “testimonies”) – – that never stop coming. And they are ALL different.
Keep sharing the stories so more people are AWARE of the lies. Try this one, or any number of others. The recent postings are from Vermont.
2023-09-21 Dr Reider “Covid Shots Are Killing My Family”. The People’s study. CHD
Is it my imagination? I thought that these Davos guys sounded a little shaky, their body language wasn’t top-of-their-game??
I sure hope that their vaccine agenda is unravelling, and it’s not my imagination.
/Sandra