UPDATE: The Excerpts from Court Transcript below say “Lockheed Martin is out”. However, StatsCan posted expense claims submitted by its second-in-command for attendance at FVEY meetings that identify Lockheed Martin’s role (“steerage”) in establishing compatibility of Census operations in FVEY countries. Lockheed Martin specializes in international surveillance, in addition to its numerous felonies. I am skeptical about the claim that “Lockheed Martin is out.” See
2016-03-18 Does Lockheed Martin Corp have a role in the 2016 Census?
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EXCERPTS FROM TRANSCRIPT
TESTIMONY OF YVES BELAND, DIRECTOR OF CENSUS OPERATIONS
Toronto, October 2013
- LOCKHEED MARTIN IS “OUT OF THE PICTURE TOTALLY FOR THE NEXT ONE” (CENSUS, 2016). See below.
- THE REASON FOR THREE SUCCESSIVE “SCALE BACK”s, BETWEEN 2004 AND TODAY, DOWN TO ZERO, IS PERSISTENT WIDESPREAD CITIZEN PROTEST.
Exactly. We descope as soon as we heard those concerns. We took the matter very seriously and we descoped their (Lockheed Martin’s) mandate right away. Details down below.
On the NUMBERS, see StatsCan math is wrong. The information is also from the Tobias Transcript. Non-compliance grew to 11%, not 2%, the figure used by StatsCan.
The Crown (StatsCan and the Justice Dept) need to answer the question:
WHY the continued prosecution of citizens who object to Lockheed Martin’s involvement, when StatsCan has taken steps to remove Lockheed Martin completely?
RE: Trial of (Karen) Eve Segenga, Powell River BC, July 2014:
the Judge gave Eve a conditional discharge. The Transcript information was an Exhibit in the Trial.
EXCERPTS FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
AUDREY TOBIAS
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PROCEEDINGS AT TRIAL
EVIDENCE ONLY OF YVES BELAND
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BEFORE THE HONOURABLE, MR. JUSTICE R. KHAWLY
On October 3rd, 2013, at Toronto, Ontario
The testimony of the StatsCan witness Yves Beland, Director of Census Operations Division, tells
• they were getting resistance to Lockheed Martin’s involvement from the beginning (2004) during the development period.
• StatsCan reacted by “scaling back” substantially on the Lockheed contract, for the 2006 Census.
• StatsCan cut again, down to $20 million for the 2011 Census.
• Resistance continued, as documented elsewhere.
• Lockheed will be completely out of it by the next census (2016).
As far as I know, Canadians have not been told this. The only source is the transcript of the testimony under oath by Yves Beland, Director of Census Operations, witness in the Tobias trial. Only a handful of people have seen the transcript.
AND I think you have to be VERY careful about word-smithing, for example page 48 below.
So, no more contracts for Lockheed Martin, BUT REGARDLESS, StatsCan and the Justice Dept proceed with the prosecution of Eve Stegenga (and Audrey Tobias and Janet Churnin before her) who objected to Lockheed’s involvement.
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10 A. Lockheed was awarded the contract in 2008.
Q. Okay. And what was the amount of the contract?
A. For the 2011 census, Statistic Canada took over a lot of the responsibilities that Lockheed had in the 2006, so the total amount for the 2011 contract was 20 million dollars.
Q. Okay. And so you said then that they were also awarded a contract for the 2006 census?
20 A. Yes, correct.
Q. Okay. And that it was scaled back in the 2011 census?
A. Okay. Yes, it was scaled back …
Q. All right.
25 A. … 2011 census.
Q. All right. Can you … maybe we’ll talk first then about the 2006 census.
A. Okay.
Q. Can you tell us what the role was in
30 that census?
A. So their initial role was to … was much larger than what they ended up doing up at the
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end, and I’ll get through that, but their initial role was to build the census processing system. So giving us the … a solution to handle and combine information coming from paper, internet and telephone, altogether.
5 So they basically built the census population system from scratch.
In addition to that, they … they handled the printing contract and they handled specific
10 IT solution contract as well. But initially they were suppose to … they were suppose to acquire the space to do the processing of the paper questionnaire. They were suppose to equip and fit that space to conduct the processing system. They were suppose to hire the human
15 resources to actually do the work during the processing activity. And they were providing the management aspect of those activities. The four items I just mentioned, they did not do it. In 2004, because of some … some Canadians including members of the 20 parliament, they were concerned regarding the Patriot Act and then they … their concern was were not … were not true. But it was perceived that the US government, through the Patriot Act, could access confidential information provided by Canadians that
25 would … that would be collected using the Lockheed Martin system.
Q. So what you’re saying then is to alleviate those concerns, Lockheed Martins role for the
2006 census was limited?
30 A. Exactly. We descope as soon as we heard those concerns. We took the matter very seriously and we descoped their mandate right away.
THEN LATER, P 48:
10… that was part of the deal with Lockheed that they would build it. They would do a little bit less in 2011 and they’re out of the picture totally for the next one. So Stat Can has taken over the entire maintenance and setting up of the census processing system.