CARL JUNG, in interview, 1959> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBYEFX2dqpM
We need more understanding of human nature, because the only danger that exists is man himself — he is the great danger, and we are pitifully unaware of it. We know nothing of man — far too little.
FREEMAN: As the world becomes more technically efficient, it seems increasingly necessary for people to behave communally and collectively, now do you think it’s possible that the highest development of man may be to submerge his own individuality in a kind of collective consciousness?
JUNG: That’s hardly possible. I think there will be a reaction — a reaction will set in against this communal dissociation.
You know, man doesn’t stand forever, his nullification. Once, there will be a reaction, and I see it setting in, you know, when I think of my patients, they all seek their own existence and to assure their existence against that complete atomization into nothingness or into meaninglessness.
Man cannot stand a meaningless life.
2021-02-08
Hi Sandra,
Thank you for the response and address! I’ll see if the binding company can ship direct to Canada, otherwise once I get the copies here I’ll send one your way. I’ll be curious to see what you think of the work and to hear any feedback you have,
I’m out of Seattle now. Living in the city with all the upset and working from home at the same time was unnerving. I am more out in the country side now. And it is better.
I appreciate the video of Jung. Strangely I’ve never watched actual footage of him and this will be interesting to check out.
I did graduate – but please just call me Adam.
Will be in touch again soon – thank you!
-Adam
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:58 AM Sandra Finley wrote:
So good to hear from you, Adam.
Congratulations on getting your dissertation to the printers! Maybe it feels like you are so light, you can fly now.
You were in my thoughts, yesterday in particular.
If you are still working in the same field of study,
I was thinking you might be interested.
Yesterday, a friend of 5 years recounted what is to me, a pretty unique revelation or epiphany.
He had told me about it, maybe a year ago; yesterday in more detail.
I am hoping he will agree to let me write it down.
Oh! but I roam across borders: this may not fall within the confines of Hallucination.
I am looking forward to reading your work. I will have better understanding, even if your dissertation is for the purpose of proving that you understand and can apply “scientific” rigor in research. And so the volume might seem a bit tedious to you, but will not seem so to me.
I appended an excerpt, interview of Carl Jung, 1959, 18 months before his death.
I am most struck by the concluding line: Man cannot stand a meaningless life.
I always like that which reinforces my own views!
I hope you and your family are doing well. Are you still in Seattle?
Covid has its silver linings. One is your dissertation. I think that means the completion of your PhD? Shall I be addressing you as “Doctor Dear”?
Another important silver lining is the respite it offers to a planet and creatures under siege.
I like hugs. I am feeling slightly deprived.
I am sending big, warm ones your way.
Sandra
CARL JUNG, in interview, 1959> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBYEFX2dqpM
We need more understanding of human nature, because the only danger that exists is man himself — he is the great danger, and we are pitifully unaware of it. We know nothing of man — far too little.
FREEMAN: As the world becomes more technically efficient, it seems increasingly necessary for people to behave communally and collectively, now do you think it’s possible that the highest development of man may be to submerge his own individuality in a kind of collective consciousness?
JUNG: That’s hardly possible. I think there will be a reaction — a reaction will set in against this communal dissociation.
You know, man doesn’t stand forever, his nullification. Once, there will be a reaction, and I see it setting in, you know, when I think of my patients, they all seek their own existence and to assure their existence against that complete atomization into nothingness or into meaninglessness.
Man cannot stand a meaningless life.
From: Adam
Sent: February 3, 2021 5:56 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: Re: Congratulations on completion of your thesis!
Hi Sandra,
It has been a long time and I hope that you are doing well.
I’m finally sending the dissertation in to a printer and want to send you a copy! What address would be best? I think I can set it up so that the printer just ships one directly to you after binding but if not I’ll mail from USPS.
I’m glad things are starting to get back to normal again and hopefully the world is turning the bend on the virus.
Best regards,
-Adam
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 7:27 PM Sandra Finley wrote:
All’s good Adam!
And thanks for your reply. Details noted.
/Sandra
From: Adam Pierce
Sent: February 3, 2020 5:19 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: Re: Congratulations on completion of your thesis!
Hi Sandra,
Thank you for the email and the invitation to Victoria. I wouldn’t feel good having an expenses paid trip to the city (though this is very kind of you!) but I’ll be sure to reach out if I travel to Victoria in the future. I’m planning on printing up the dissertation this month so if you send me your address I can send you a physical copy! I’m going to begin working on the pamphlet I hope to make for hospitals and programs dealing with psychosis and I’ll be sure to send you a copy of this as well once it is complete as well (might be a few months). Thank you as well for the the book recommendation on the Tau of synchronicity. I’ve read Jung’s original work on synchronicity but haven’t yet seen this book. My reading list is overloaded at the moment but I’ll put this on as a reminder to get from the library during my next leisure reading trip.
I hope things are well and that you are enjoying your moment of synchronism.
Best regards,
-Adam
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:22 AM Sandra Finley wrote:
Hi Adam,
It was so good to hear your news!
If the book below has not come to your attention, if your time and proclivity permit, I invite you to Victoria where I am soon going. I just returned home from a few days there – – left a loose end behind that I’d like to tie up.
Your travel, your own room at the Oak Bay Guest House (includes a very good breakfast), two nights, would be covered.
I have just gone through a series of events that I describe as “highly synchronistic”.
The book – – originally published in 1979, “The Tao of Psychology” (a snippet from Amazon below). The picture on Amazon is the 25th anniversary edition. The book is still around in a much plainer cover, but same content. Russell’s Bookstore in Victoria has a copy with the plainer cover.
Best wishes,
Sandra
The Tao of Psychology: Synchronicity and the Self Paperback – January 18, 2005
by Jean Shinoda Bolen M.D. (Author)
Understanding the Moments That Touch and Transform Our Lives
Who hasn’t experienced that eerie coincidence, that sudden, baffling insight, that occasional flash of extrasensory perception that astonishes? Can these events be dismissed as mere chance, or do they have some deeper significance for us?
The twenty-fifth anniversary edition of this classic explores the inter-relationship between these meaningful coincidences and our intuitive sense that we are part of some deep oneness with the
From: Pierce, Adam
Sent: January 2, 2020 12:31 PM
To: Sandra Finley
Subject: Re: Congratulations on completion of your thesis!
Hello Sandra!!!
Thank you for the email and the congratulations. I did indeed defend and just got everything uploaded to the library system. I’ll be sending out physical or digital copies of the dissertation for those who requested this over the next month or so. I’m overall happy with how the thesis ended up but am looking forward to the next phase where I attend conferences, write manuscripts and try to translate the findings into something more meaningful and applicable to the community. The document is very large and probably won’t be the most exciting read but I know you are interested so will definitely send it.
I unfortunately won’t be in Saskatoon in spring as I am back in Seattle. They will be closing my email down soon so you can reach me in the future at —
I’ll reach out again soon to get the address you want me to mail the document to. Feel free to send me things you come across that you think might be relevant!
Happy New Year and I hope things are well. Feels good to be in the northwest for sure = )
Best,
-Adam
From: Sandra Finley
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 6:24 PM
To: Adam
Subject: Congratulations on completion of your thesis!
Hi Adam,
RE: The book WAYS TO GO BEYOND, AND WHY THEY WORK by biologist Rupert Sheldrake
He mentions their data base – – 10,000 stories of experiences
– – – – – – –
I seemed to need to track you down.
Maybe for more than one reason. To congratulate you on completion of your PhD. That is very exciting news. Way to go!
Perhaps to wish you Merry Christmas – – maybe you are visiting family in Seattle during the Christmas season. That would be good!
Perhaps it’s because I occasionally see something and think – Adam might be interested in that?! But I’ve been out-of-touch for a spell. The only email address I have is @ usask. But I was thinking you were in North Dakota (wrong!).
It’s most recently because I had been looking at the work (youtubes) of Rupert Sheldrake. And have ordered his new book. (don’t think I ever received it.
The following is the pasted-together note to myself.
All the best, I trust things go well.
Sandra
Re-contacted Adam, researcher who went to N. Dakota
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Sequel to: earlier book “Science and Spirituality”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDbnkceo-3g
New Book: WAYS TO GO BEYOND, AND WHY THEY WORK
Mentions data base, 10,000 stories of experiences
Psychedelics as a way to open up spiritually. (Transcribe?)
Sports as a spiritual practice
Belief in fasting. He does once a year.
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Sheldrake’s website https://www.sheldrake.org/
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Rupert Sheldrake – The Science Delusion BANNED TED TALK
1,602,670 views
- Mar 15, 2013
22K1.8KSHARESAVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHUaNAxsTg
Dr. Rupert Sheldrake talks about his banned TED talk on Skeptiko with Alex Tsakiris 02/04/2013
377,829 views
- Apr 3, 2013
(His book “Science Set Free”)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAuxXvNVhgA
“. . . a paradigm shift in action . . .”
Demonstrates “. . . empowerment of people . . . “
”. . . materialist dogma . . . “
Talks also about upcoming events:
“Science and Spirituality” talk at Hollyhock on Cortes Island in the Salish Sea, with his two sons (I signed up for this) Covid interfered.
Talk at Big Sur, Eslin Institute
Main activity, current research: Morphic Resonance
Access the full transcript of the talk here. Here are my favorite portions.
“There’s a conflict in the heart of science between science as a method of inquiry based on reason, evidence, hypothesis and collective investigation, and science as a belief system or a world view. And unfortunately the world view aspect of science has come to inhibit and constrict the free inquiry which is the very lifeblood of the scientific endeavor.”
“Since the late 19th century, science has been conducted under the aspect of a belief system or a world view which is essentially that of materialism — philosophical materialism. And the sciences are now wholly owned subsidiaries of the materialist worldview. I think that as we break out of it, the sciences will be regenerated.”
(…)
“In an evolutionary universe, why shouldn’t the laws themselves evolve? After all, human laws do, and the idea of laws of nature is based on a metaphor with human laws. It’s a very anthropocentric metaphor; only humans have laws. In fact, only civilized societies have laws. As C.S. Lewis once said, to say that a stone falls to earth because it’s obeying a law makes it a man, and even a citizen. It’s a metaphor that we’ve got so used to we forget it’s a metaphor.” –Rupert Sheldrake
Graham Hancock | The War on Consciousness
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https://news.usask.ca/articles/colleges/2019/hallucination-care-and-collaboration.php

Hallucination care and collaboration
Everyone is capable of having a hallucination, and there is a possibility you’ve experienced one before.
By Chris Morin
While some hallucinations happen in mental health contexts, they can also happen under fairly normal circumstances. In fact, there is a window of time—typically when we are drifting in and out of sleep—when anybody is susceptible to having one, according to Adam Pierce, a PhD student in the Department of Psychology at the University of Saskatchewan (USask).
To some, this may seem unorthodox or even alarming. Historically, hallucinations were long considered the stuff of psychoses or drug trips, not a regular and inconsequential part of life. These perceptions are something that Pierce hopes to change.
“There have also been community studies that have been done that point to evidence that there are many people out there who have light visual or auditory hallucinations,” said Pierce, who is currently in the final year completing his clinical training. “And they wouldn’t seek any sort of treatment for these because they aren’t problematic. We can’t exactly say why these hallucinations happen. They just do.”
As part of his research, Pierce has been interviewing individuals on campus and in the community to share their visual and auditory experiences, with a specific interest in the social sharing context and the conversations that occurred about the hallucinations. Having worked in community health, he became interested in this research due to his work with people with mental health issues. While he acknowledges that hallucinations can be distressing, he hopes these interviews will lead to more conversations about something previously thought of as taboo.
“A major component of my reason for doing this research is trying to bust up some of the popular conceptions around hallucinations as pathological and to help friends and family members of individuals who hallucinate, as well as the individuals themselves,” said Pierce. “I was co-facilitating these groups where people were talking about the first experiences they had sharing these hallucinations with friends and family, and they weren’t always getting a very good response when they described hearing or seeing something. What I realized was that many of these people hadn’t talked these experiences through.”
Although he admits that the subject of hallucinations can often be difficult to navigate, Pierce said that offering support is key for helping others navigate the experience. Having completed his undergraduate studies and his master’s in Seattle, where he studied phenomenology, when it came time to do his PhD in clinical psychology, Pierce said that USask was the perfect place to complete his research.
“The psychology department here is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to qualitative research, and faculty who are incredibly knowledgeable. My supervisor, Dr. Linda McMullen (PhD), has been outstanding and incredibly supportive.”
Having conducted his interviews across campus, Pierce said that support has permeated throughout his own research. While for some, it can be frightening that someone they know quite well has had hallucinatory experiences, many of the people he has interviewed are very supportive.
“The overall goal is to get the general public to be more thoughtful about these experiences, and if somebody is going through this themselves or with somebody that they love, having relevant information would be incredibly helpful,” he said. “This isn’t just a mental health issue, but something that could potentially affect anyone.”